From: Oliver Hartkopp <oliver@hartkopp.net>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Urs Thuermann <urs@isnogud.escape.de>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Oliver Hartkopp <oliver.hartkopp@volkswagen.de>,
Urs Thuermann <urs.thuermann@volkswagen.de>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 21:48:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <465DD506.4000503@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <465DCD90.9070103@trash.net>
Patrick McHardy wrote:
>
>>> (..)
>>> Qdiscs might change skb->cb. Maybe use skb->sk?
>>>
>>>
>> The loopback functionality in CAN is a bit tricky (maybe you can take a
>> look into the Documentation patch [7/7] at chapter 3.2 and 4.1.4).
>>
>> The problem is, that we need a per socket(!) option that enables the
>> loopback for the sent CAN-Frames or not, so the information about
>> loopback a skb content or not is contained inside the skb sent down to
>> the CAN netdevice. If the CAN networkdevice is not capable to perform a
>> loopback itself (see dev->flags, chapter 6) the CAN core has to do the
>> loopback as a fallback.
>>
>
>
> skb->sk should work fine for a per socket option. In fact the
> CAN core patch simply sets skb->cb to skb->sk.
>
>
>> The use of skb->cb is also needed in the receive path to recognize and
>> trash loopback'ed CAN-frames inside the *originating* socket (see
>> chapter 4.1.4).
>>
>
>
> skb->sk should work here as well since you detect these frames
> before queueing to the receiving socket.
>
Hm - this would indeed be much nicer than using skb->cb.
I think we just had some concerns to use skb->sk for our own
functionality, as it might be used and dereferenced by other layers
between the socket and the network driver ... so setting skb->sk to NULL
(to indicate 'no loopback') smells bad if you don't really know who ever
dereferences skb->sk.
Btw. it's really worth to look at it again. I just had the idea to
access the loopback flag via skb->sk->opt->loopback (argpfl!) on the TX
path and skb->sk on the RX path. This would avoid skb->sk to be set to
NULL but need to have this loopback flag to be implemented in each CAN
socket opt.
I'll discuss this with Urs tomorrow morning, which change would be the
best and also the 'safest' solution here.
Thanks for your contribution!
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-30 19:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-30 13:11 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, update Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 1/7] CAN: Allocate protocol numbers for PF_CAN Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 3/7] CAN: Add raw protocol Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 4/7] CAN: Add broadcast manager (bcm) protocol Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 17:13 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-05-30 18:39 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-30 19:16 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-05-30 19:48 ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2007-05-30 19:58 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-05-31 5:13 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-31 20:25 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-01 14:54 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-02 9:51 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-02 19:58 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-03 19:16 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-04 11:53 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-04 12:44 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-06-06 11:39 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-04 12:17 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-06-04 16:32 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-04 18:26 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-02 8:09 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-06-03 18:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-05-30 17:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-30 18:57 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-30 19:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-30 19:25 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 6/7] CAN: Add maintainer entries Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 7/7] CAN: Add documentation Urs Thuermann
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-16 15:02 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: New PF_CAN protocol family for 2.6.25, update Urs Thuermann
2007-11-16 15:02 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 12:13 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: New PF_CAN protocol family for 2.6.25 Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 12:13 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 12:51 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-11-14 13:36 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 13:45 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-05 10:49 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #10 Urs Thuermann
2007-10-05 10:49 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-10-02 13:10 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #9 Urs Thuermann
2007-10-02 13:10 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-10-02 14:20 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-10-02 15:07 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-10-02 16:46 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-10-02 21:02 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-10-02 21:43 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-10-02 21:50 ` David Miller
2007-10-03 7:06 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-10-02 21:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-10-02 22:04 ` David Miller
2007-10-03 17:47 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-10-04 11:52 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:20 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #8 Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:20 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 13:26 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2007-09-25 14:00 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 14:47 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 17:55 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-25 17:53 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 19:09 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-20 18:43 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #7 Urs Thuermann
2007-09-20 18:43 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-09-27 15:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-27 16:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-27 19:18 ` David Miller
2007-09-28 8:48 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-28 16:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-28 18:33 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-17 10:03 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #6 Urs Thuermann
2007-09-17 10:03 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-09-18 15:02 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-18 22:24 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-19 6:26 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-19 8:41 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-08-04 2:06 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #5 Urs Thuermann
2007-08-04 2:07 ` [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22 3:44 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #3 Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22 3:44 ` [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22 11:02 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-22 12:22 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22 12:38 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-23 12:05 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 12:52 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-23 15:13 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 16:25 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-23 16:42 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 17:13 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-04 11:37 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-07-04 14:01 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-09 11:37 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-07-09 14:18 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-09 15:27 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-07-11 19:41 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-07-11 22:52 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-16 6:05 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-07-16 8:37 ` David Miller
2007-07-16 13:08 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-16 16:27 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-07-16 13:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-16 16:00 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 21:01 ` David Miller
2007-06-23 21:44 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 20:51 ` David Miller
2007-06-23 21:49 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-16 14:51 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family Urs Thuermann
2007-05-16 14:51 ` [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
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