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From: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
To: Urs Thuermann <urs@isnogud.escape.de>
Cc: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Oliver Hartkopp <oliver.hartkopp@volkswagen.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:32:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46643EB2.2060204@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ygfejkrrk16.fsf@janus.isnogud.escape.de>

Urs Thuermann wrote:
> Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net> writes:
>
>   
>> 2. The loopback indication is done by using the unused skb->protocol in
>> the tx path.
>>     
>
> I don't think we should (mis-)use skb->protocol as a loopback flag.
>   

Yep! After reading the comments from Patrick and Urs i definitely agree
to their concerns.

> IMO it would be better to skb->pkt_type.  This is used to indicate
> packet type to rcv functions registered by dev_add_pack().  It is set
> by netdevice drivers to PACKET_{MULTICAST,BROADCAST,HOST,OTHER} for
> received packets.  In the send path it is set to PACKET_OUTGOING on
> the copy of the skbuff that is delivered to the sockets registered on
> ptype_all (typically packet sockets from tcpdump or other sniffers).
> AFAICS, pkt_type is not used otherwise in the send path.
>
> We could set skb->pkt_type = PACKET_LOOPBACK to flag to the CAN
> netdevice driver whether to loop back the packet.
>   

I think, it goes into the right direction to use skb->pkt_type. The flag
should really be somewhere inside the skb as all back references into
the sk would become sticky in the implementation.

But regarding the use of skb->pkt_type i would suggest to take a closer
look on the definitions in include/linux/if_packet.h and how the
pkt_type is to be used inside the kernel. In my opinion we should use ...

* TX-Path:
PACKET_OTHERHOST: send the CAN frame without loopback
PACKET_BROADCAST : send the CAN frame with loopback (aka local broadcast)

See an example of this approach in drivers/net/arcnet/rfc1051.c :
http://www.linux-m32r.org/lxr/http/source/drivers/net/arcnet/rfc1051.c?a=i386#L99

* RX-Path:
PACKET_HOST : just an incoming CAN frame for this host

Any comments? ACKs?

Best regards,
Oliver






  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-04 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-30 13:11 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, update Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 1/7] CAN: Allocate protocol numbers for PF_CAN Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 2/7] CAN: Add PF_CAN core module Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 3/7] CAN: Add raw protocol Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 4/7] CAN: Add broadcast manager (bcm) protocol Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 17:13   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-05-30 18:39     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-30 19:16       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-05-30 19:48         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-30 19:58           ` Patrick McHardy
2007-05-31  5:13             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-31 20:25     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-01 14:54       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-02  9:51         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-02 19:58           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-03 19:16             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-04 11:53               ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-04 12:44                 ` Urs Thuermann
2007-06-06 11:39                   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-04 12:17               ` Urs Thuermann
2007-06-04 16:32                 ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2007-06-04 18:26                   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-02  8:09     ` Urs Thuermann
2007-06-03 18:27       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-05-30 17:28   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-30 18:57     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-30 19:01       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-30 19:25         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 6/7] CAN: Add maintainer entries Urs Thuermann
2007-05-30 13:11 ` [patch 7/7] CAN: Add documentation Urs Thuermann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-16 15:02 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: New PF_CAN protocol family for 2.6.25, update Urs Thuermann
2007-11-16 15:02 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 12:13 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: New PF_CAN protocol family for 2.6.25 Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 12:13 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 12:51   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-11-14 13:36     ` Urs Thuermann
2007-11-14 13:45       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-05 10:49 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #10 Urs Thuermann
2007-10-05 10:49 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-10-02 13:10 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #9 Urs Thuermann
2007-10-02 13:10 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-10-02 14:20   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-10-02 15:07     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-10-02 16:46       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-10-02 21:02     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-10-02 21:43       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-10-02 21:50         ` David Miller
2007-10-03  7:06           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-10-02 21:52       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-10-02 22:04         ` David Miller
2007-10-03 17:47           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-10-04 11:52     ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:20 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #8 Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 12:20 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 13:26   ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2007-09-25 14:00     ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-25 14:47       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 17:55         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-25 17:53           ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-25 19:09             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-20 18:43 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #7 Urs Thuermann
2007-09-20 18:43 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-09-27 15:54   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-27 16:16     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-27 19:18       ` David Miller
2007-09-28  8:48     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-28 16:52       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-28 18:33         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-17 10:03 [PATCH 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #6 Urs Thuermann
2007-09-17 10:03 ` [PATCH 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-09-18 15:02   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-09-18 22:24     ` Urs Thuermann
2007-09-19  6:26       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-09-19  8:41       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-08-04  2:06 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #5 Urs Thuermann
2007-08-04  2:07 ` [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22  3:44 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family, try #3 Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22  3:44 ` [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22 11:02   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-22 12:22     ` Urs Thuermann
2007-06-22 12:38       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-23 12:05         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 12:52           ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-23 15:13             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 16:25               ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-23 16:42                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 17:13                   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-04 11:37                     ` Urs Thuermann
2007-07-04 14:01                       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-09 11:37                         ` Urs Thuermann
2007-07-09 14:18                           ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-09 15:27                             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-07-11 19:41                               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-07-11 22:52                                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-16  6:05                                   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-07-16  8:37                                     ` David Miller
2007-07-16 13:08                                     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-16 16:27                                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-07-16 13:07                               ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-16 16:00                                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 21:01               ` David Miller
2007-06-23 21:44                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-06-23 20:51           ` David Miller
2007-06-23 21:49             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2007-05-16 14:51 [patch 0/7] CAN: Add new PF_CAN protocol family Urs Thuermann
2007-05-16 14:51 ` [patch 5/7] CAN: Add virtual CAN netdevice driver Urs Thuermann

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