From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, socketcan@hartkopp.net, hadi@cyberus.ca,
xemul@sw.ru, tgraf@suug.ch
Subject: Re: [RFC RTNETLINK 00/09]: Netlink link creation API
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:25:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4666DFE1.4040200@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m14plluklr.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> writes:
>
>
>>>I still think adding a IFLA_PARTNER or a custom attribute is cleaner
>>>in this case. Slight semantic mismatches are the worst design bugs
>>>to correct.
>>
>>
>>Indeed, IFLA_PARTNER sounds like a better idea. I just suggested to
>>Pavel to create only a single device per newlink operation and binding
>>them later, what do you think about that?
>
>
> I don't think it solves much because we still need a way to report the
> partner device.
I was thinking of something like this:
ip link add veth0 type veth
ip link add veth1 partner veth0 type veth
ip would resolve veth0 to an ifindex and set IFLA_PARTNER. But Alexey
just raised a few good points, so this might not work.
> On the actual using side I think it makes the core of the driver much
> more difficult to get right.
>
> Basically if we can't count on having a partner device we have to
> add NULL pointer checks and locking to the packet dispatch which
> is otherwise unnecessary.
All you'd need to do is keep the queue stopped until the device
is bound. No changes to rx or tx path neccessary.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-06 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-05 14:12 [RFC RTNETLINK 00/09]: Netlink link creation API Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 14:12 ` [RFC NETLINK 01/09]: Mark netlink policies const Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 19:39 ` David Miller
2007-06-05 14:12 ` [RFC RTNETLINK 02/09]: ifindex 0 does not exist Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 19:40 ` David Miller
2007-06-05 14:12 ` [RFC RTNETLINK 03/09]: Split up rtnl_setlink Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 19:41 ` David Miller
2007-06-05 14:12 ` [RFC RTNETLINK 04/09]: Link creation API Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 19:43 ` David Miller
2007-06-05 21:09 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 22:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-05 23:17 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 23:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-06 11:42 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 16:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-06 16:50 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 18:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-05 14:12 ` [RFC DUMMY 05/09]: Use dev->stats Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 19:44 ` David Miller
2007-06-05 14:13 ` [RFC DUMMY 06/09]: Keep dummy devices on list Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 19:44 ` David Miller
2007-06-05 14:13 ` [RFC DUMMY 07/09]: Use rtnl_link API Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 19:46 ` David Miller
2007-06-05 14:13 ` [RFC IFB 08/09]: Keep ifb devices on list Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 14:13 ` [RFC IFB 09/09]: Use rtnl_link API Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 14:18 ` [RFC IPROUTE]: iplink: use netlink for link configuration Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 19:37 ` [RFC RTNETLINK 00/09]: Netlink link creation API David Miller
2007-06-05 21:10 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 22:00 ` jamal
2007-06-05 22:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-05 22:29 ` jamal
2007-06-06 0:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-06 11:50 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 15:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-06 15:35 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 15:56 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2007-06-06 16:32 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 17:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-06 19:14 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2007-06-07 8:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-06 16:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-06 16:25 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2007-06-06 13:46 ` Patrick McHardy
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