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From: Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>
To: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Virtual ethernet tunnel
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:51:52 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4667D538.7040904@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4667D00E.2020605@fr.ibm.com>

>> I did this at the very first version, but Alexey showed me that this
>> would be wrong. Look. When we create the second device it must be in
>> the other namespace as it is useless to have them in one namespace.
>> But if we have the device in the other namespace the RTNL_NEWLINK
>> message from kernel would come into this namespace thus confusing ip
>> utility in the init namespace. Creating the device in the init ns and
>> moving it into the new one is rather a complex task.
>>   
> Pavel,
> 
> moving the netdevice to another namespace is not a complex task. Eric
> Biederman did it in its patchset ( cf.  http://lxc.sf.net/network )

By saying complex I didn't mean that this is difficult to implement,
but that it consists (must consist) of many stages. I.e. composite.
Making the device right in the namespace is liter.

> When the pair device is created, both extremeties are into the init
> namespace and you can choose to which namespace to move one extremity.

I do not mind that.

> When the network namespace dies, the netdev is moved back to the init
> namespace.
> That facilitate network device management.
> 
> Concerning netlink events, this is automatically generated when the
> network device is moved through namespaces.
> 
> IMHO, we should have the network device movement between namespaces in
> order to be able to move a physical network device too (eg. you have 4
> NIC and you want to create 3 containers and assign 3 NIC to each of them)

Agree. Moving the devices is a must-have functionality.

I do not mind making the pair in the init namespace and move the second
one into the desired namespace. But if we *always* will have two ends in
different namespaces what to complicate things for?

Thanks,
Pavel

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-07  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-06 15:11 [PATCH] Virtual ethernet tunnel Pavel Emelianov
2007-06-06 15:17 ` [PATCH] Module for ip utility to support veth device Pavel Emelianov
2007-06-06 15:18   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 15:28 ` [PATCH] Virtual ethernet tunnel Patrick McHardy
2007-06-07  8:09   ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-06-07  9:29     ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-06-07  9:51       ` Pavel Emelianov [this message]
2007-06-07 14:05         ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-06-07 14:23           ` Kirill Korotaev
2007-06-07 14:42             ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-06-07 15:33               ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-06-07 15:25           ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-06-07 15:44             ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-06-11 11:39     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-13  9:24       ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-06-13 11:12         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-13 16:02           ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-06-13 15:37             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 15:39 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 16:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-06 19:47 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 20:38   ` [Devel] " Daniel Lezcano
2007-06-06 20:49     ` David Miller
2007-06-07  8:14   ` Kirill Korotaev
2007-06-07  9:07     ` David Miller
2007-06-07  9:30       ` Benjamin Thery

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