From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: hadi@cyberus.ca
Cc: "Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P" <peter.p.waskiewicz.jr@intel.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, jeff@garzik.org,
"Kok, Auke-jan H" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NET: Multiqueue network device support.
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:03:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <466D480F.6090708@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181566335.4043.231.camel@localhost>
jamal wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-11-06 at 14:39 +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
>
>>>Sure. Packets stashed on the any DMA ring are considered "gone to the
>>>wire". That is a very valid assumption to make.
>>
>>
>>I disagree, its obviously not true
>
>
> Patrick, you are making too strong a statement.
Well, its not.
> Take a step back:
> When you put a packet on the DMA ring, are you ever going to take it
> away at some point before it goes to the wire?
No, but its nevertheless not on the wire yet and the HW scheduler
controls when it will get there. It might in theory even never get
there if higher priority queues are continously active.
>>and leads to the behaviour I
>>described. If it were true there would be no reason to use multiple
>>HW TX queues to begin with.
>
>
> In the general case, they are totaly useless.
> They are useful when theres contention/congestion. Even in a shared
> media like wireless.
The same is true for any work-conserving queue, software or hardware.
> And if there is contention, the qdisc scheduler will do the right thing.
That ignores a few points that were raised in this thread,
- you can treat each HW queue as an indivdual network device
- you can avoid synchronizing on a single queue lock for
multiple TX queues
- it is desirable to keep all queues full
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-11 13:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-04 21:40 [RFC] NET: Multiple queue hardware support PJ Waskiewicz
2007-06-04 21:40 ` [PATCH] NET: Multiqueue network device support PJ Waskiewicz
2007-06-05 11:50 ` jamal
2007-06-05 15:51 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-05 22:28 ` jamal
2007-06-06 15:11 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 22:13 ` jamal
2007-06-06 22:30 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-06 22:40 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 23:35 ` jamal
2007-06-06 23:56 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 16:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-07 16:59 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 12:08 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-07 22:04 ` jamal
2007-06-09 14:58 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-09 19:23 ` jamal
2007-06-09 21:23 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-09 22:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-10 3:02 ` jamal
2007-06-10 15:27 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-06 22:35 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 22:57 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-06 23:00 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 23:14 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-06 23:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-06 23:32 ` jamal
2007-06-06 23:48 ` Rick Jones
2007-06-06 23:54 ` jamal
2007-06-07 0:01 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 23:58 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 23:52 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 0:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-07 12:29 ` jamal
2007-06-07 15:03 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-07 21:57 ` jamal
2007-06-07 22:06 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-07 22:26 ` jamal
2007-06-07 22:30 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-07 22:57 ` jamal
2007-06-07 22:44 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 22:54 ` jamal
2007-06-07 23:00 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 23:03 ` jamal
2007-06-08 0:31 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2007-06-08 1:35 ` jamal
2007-06-08 10:39 ` Herbert Xu
2007-06-08 11:34 ` jamal
2007-06-08 12:37 ` Herbert Xu
2007-06-08 13:12 ` jamal
2007-06-09 11:08 ` Herbert Xu
2007-06-09 14:36 ` jamal
2007-06-08 5:32 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-06-08 19:55 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-09 0:24 ` jamal
2007-06-07 22:55 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-09 1:05 ` Ramkrishna Vepa
2007-06-06 23:53 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 1:08 ` jamal
2007-06-07 12:22 ` jamal
2007-06-11 12:01 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 11:58 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 12:23 ` jamal
2007-06-11 12:39 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 12:52 ` jamal
2007-06-11 13:03 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2007-06-11 13:29 ` jamal
2007-06-11 14:03 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 14:30 ` Cohen, Guy
2007-06-11 14:38 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 14:48 ` jamal
2007-06-11 15:00 ` Tomas Winkler
2007-06-11 15:14 ` jamal
2007-06-11 15:34 ` Cohen, Guy
2007-06-11 22:22 ` jamal
2007-06-12 14:04 ` Cohen, Guy
2007-06-12 15:23 ` jamal
2007-06-12 23:38 ` jamal
2007-06-11 14:40 ` jamal
2007-06-11 14:49 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 15:05 ` jamal
2007-06-11 15:12 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 15:25 ` jamal
2007-06-11 15:44 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 21:35 ` jamal
2007-06-11 23:01 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-12 0:58 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-12 2:29 ` jamal
2007-06-12 13:21 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-12 15:12 ` jamal
2007-06-12 21:02 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 21:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 21:17 ` Ben Greear
2007-06-12 21:26 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 21:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 21:52 ` Roland Dreier
2007-06-12 21:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 22:04 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 22:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 22:00 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 21:53 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 22:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 21:46 ` Ben Greear
2007-06-12 21:54 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 22:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 22:40 ` Ben Greear
2007-06-12 21:47 ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-12 21:55 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 22:17 ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-13 3:41 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-13 16:44 ` Rick Jones
2007-06-12 21:17 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-13 5:56 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-13 11:34 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-14 1:51 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-13 12:32 ` jamal
2007-06-13 13:12 ` Robert Olsson
2007-06-13 13:33 ` jamal
2007-06-13 15:01 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-13 15:53 ` Robert Olsson
2007-06-13 18:20 ` David Miller
2007-06-13 18:22 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-13 21:30 ` jamal
2007-06-14 2:44 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-14 11:48 ` jamal
2007-06-15 1:27 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-15 10:49 ` jamal
2007-06-18 1:18 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-18 15:16 ` jamal
2007-06-19 2:12 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-19 16:04 ` jamal
2007-06-20 5:51 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-21 15:39 ` jamal
2007-06-22 1:26 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-25 16:47 ` jamal
2007-06-25 20:47 ` David Miller
2007-06-26 13:27 ` jamal
2007-06-26 20:57 ` David Miller
2007-06-27 22:32 ` jamal
2007-06-27 22:54 ` David Miller
2007-06-28 0:15 ` jamal
2007-06-28 0:31 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 9:19 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-12 12:17 ` jamal
2007-06-11 17:36 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 18:05 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 18:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-13 18:34 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 17:52 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 17:57 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 18:05 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 18:15 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 18:24 ` Patrick McHardy
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