From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: hadi@cyberus.ca
Cc: "Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P" <peter.p.waskiewicz.jr@intel.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, jeff@garzik.org,
"Kok, Auke-jan H" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NET: Multiqueue network device support.
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:12:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <466D667B.6050108@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181574306.4077.34.camel@localhost>
jamal wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-11-06 at 16:49 +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
>
>>We have n empty HW queues with a maximum length of m packets per queue:
>>
>>[0] empty
>>[1] empty
>>[2] empty
>>..
>>[n-1] empty
>
>
> Asumming 0 i take it is higher prio than n-1.
Yes.
>>Now we receive m - 1 packets for each all priorities >= 1 and < n - 1,
>>so we have:
>>
>>[0] empty
>>[1] m - 1 packets
>>[2] m - 1 packets
>>..
>>[n-2] m - 1 packets
>>[n] empty
>>
>>Since no queue is completely full, the queue is still active.
>>Now we receive m packets of priorty n:
>
>
> n-1 (i think?)
Right.
>>[0] empty
>>[1] m - 1 packets
>>[2] m - 1 packets
>>..
>>[n-2] m - 1 packets
>>[n-1] m packets
>>
>>At this point the queue needs to be stopped since the highest
>>priority queue is entirely full.
>
>
> ok, so 0 is lower prio than n-1
Higher priority. But we don't know what the priority of the
next packet is going to be, so we have to stop the entire
qdisc anyway.
>>To start it again at least one packet of queue n - 1 needs to be sent,
>
>
> following so far ...
>
>
>>which (assuming
>>strict priority) requires that queues 1 to n - 2 are serviced
>>first.
>
>
> Ok, so let me revert that; 0 is higher prio than n-1.
Yes.
>>So any prio 0 packets arriving during this period will
>>sit in the qdisc and will not reach the device for a possibly
>>quite long time.
>
>
> "possibly long time" is where we diverge ;->
Worst cast is (n - 2) * (m - 1) + 1 full sized packet transmission
times.
You can do the math yourself, but we're talking about potentially
a lot of packets.
> If you throw the burden to the driver (as i am recommending in all my
> arguements so far), it should open up sooner based on priorities.
> I didnt wanna bring this earlier because it may take the discussion in
> the wrong direction.
> So in your example if n-1 shuts down the driver, then it is upto to the
> driver to open it up if any higher prio packet makes it out.
How could it do that? n-1 is still completely full and you don't
know what the next packet is going to be. Are you proposing to
simply throw the packet away in the driver even though its within
the configured limits of the qdisc?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-11 15:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-04 21:40 [RFC] NET: Multiple queue hardware support PJ Waskiewicz
2007-06-04 21:40 ` [PATCH] NET: Multiqueue network device support PJ Waskiewicz
2007-06-05 11:50 ` jamal
2007-06-05 15:51 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-05 22:28 ` jamal
2007-06-06 15:11 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-06 22:13 ` jamal
2007-06-06 22:30 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-06 22:40 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 23:35 ` jamal
2007-06-06 23:56 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 16:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-07 16:59 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 12:08 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-07 22:04 ` jamal
2007-06-09 14:58 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-09 19:23 ` jamal
2007-06-09 21:23 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-09 22:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-10 3:02 ` jamal
2007-06-10 15:27 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-06 22:35 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 22:57 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-06 23:00 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 23:14 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-06 23:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-06 23:32 ` jamal
2007-06-06 23:48 ` Rick Jones
2007-06-06 23:54 ` jamal
2007-06-07 0:01 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 23:58 ` David Miller
2007-06-06 23:52 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 0:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-07 12:29 ` jamal
2007-06-07 15:03 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-07 21:57 ` jamal
2007-06-07 22:06 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-07 22:26 ` jamal
2007-06-07 22:30 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-07 22:57 ` jamal
2007-06-07 22:44 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 22:54 ` jamal
2007-06-07 23:00 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 23:03 ` jamal
2007-06-08 0:31 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2007-06-08 1:35 ` jamal
2007-06-08 10:39 ` Herbert Xu
2007-06-08 11:34 ` jamal
2007-06-08 12:37 ` Herbert Xu
2007-06-08 13:12 ` jamal
2007-06-09 11:08 ` Herbert Xu
2007-06-09 14:36 ` jamal
2007-06-08 5:32 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-06-08 19:55 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-09 0:24 ` jamal
2007-06-07 22:55 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-09 1:05 ` Ramkrishna Vepa
2007-06-06 23:53 ` David Miller
2007-06-07 1:08 ` jamal
2007-06-07 12:22 ` jamal
2007-06-11 12:01 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 11:58 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 12:23 ` jamal
2007-06-11 12:39 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 12:52 ` jamal
2007-06-11 13:03 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 13:29 ` jamal
2007-06-11 14:03 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 14:30 ` Cohen, Guy
2007-06-11 14:38 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 14:48 ` jamal
2007-06-11 15:00 ` Tomas Winkler
2007-06-11 15:14 ` jamal
2007-06-11 15:34 ` Cohen, Guy
2007-06-11 22:22 ` jamal
2007-06-12 14:04 ` Cohen, Guy
2007-06-12 15:23 ` jamal
2007-06-12 23:38 ` jamal
2007-06-11 14:40 ` jamal
2007-06-11 14:49 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 15:05 ` jamal
2007-06-11 15:12 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2007-06-11 15:25 ` jamal
2007-06-11 15:44 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 21:35 ` jamal
2007-06-11 23:01 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-12 0:58 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-12 2:29 ` jamal
2007-06-12 13:21 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-12 15:12 ` jamal
2007-06-12 21:02 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 21:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 21:17 ` Ben Greear
2007-06-12 21:26 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 21:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 21:52 ` Roland Dreier
2007-06-12 21:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 22:04 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 22:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 22:00 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 21:53 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 22:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 21:46 ` Ben Greear
2007-06-12 21:54 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 22:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-12 22:40 ` Ben Greear
2007-06-12 21:47 ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-12 21:55 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 22:17 ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-13 3:41 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-13 16:44 ` Rick Jones
2007-06-12 21:17 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-13 5:56 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-13 11:34 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-14 1:51 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-13 12:32 ` jamal
2007-06-13 13:12 ` Robert Olsson
2007-06-13 13:33 ` jamal
2007-06-13 15:01 ` Leonid Grossman
2007-06-13 15:53 ` Robert Olsson
2007-06-13 18:20 ` David Miller
2007-06-13 18:22 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-13 21:30 ` jamal
2007-06-14 2:44 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-14 11:48 ` jamal
2007-06-15 1:27 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-15 10:49 ` jamal
2007-06-18 1:18 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-18 15:16 ` jamal
2007-06-19 2:12 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-19 16:04 ` jamal
2007-06-20 5:51 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-21 15:39 ` jamal
2007-06-22 1:26 ` Zhu Yi
2007-06-25 16:47 ` jamal
2007-06-25 20:47 ` David Miller
2007-06-26 13:27 ` jamal
2007-06-26 20:57 ` David Miller
2007-06-27 22:32 ` jamal
2007-06-27 22:54 ` David Miller
2007-06-28 0:15 ` jamal
2007-06-28 0:31 ` David Miller
2007-06-12 9:19 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-12 12:17 ` jamal
2007-06-11 17:36 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 18:05 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 18:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-13 18:34 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 17:52 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 17:57 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 18:05 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-11 18:15 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2007-06-11 18:24 ` Patrick McHardy
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