From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: hadi@cyberus.ca, Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-acpi@vger" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
lenb@kernel.org, Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [PATCH] [-mm] ACPI: export ACPI events via netlink
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:23:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <468507C9.2000800@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1183122920.4089.63.camel@johannes.berg>
Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 15:11 +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
>
>
>>>Hm. I'm starting to dislike the dynamic registration the more I think
>>>about it. Now when a group is unregistered I'd have to unbind everybody
>>>who's currently using it... At least when I want to enforce
>>>root/non-root binds which is a further goal.
>>
>>
>>How about using module references to prevent unloading while sockets
>>are bound? We already do the same thing for netlink families.
>
>
> Ah, no, you're both thinking something different. I'm thinking if we
> allow dynamic registration the only sensible thing is to have dynamic
> unregistration as well, and then we can have this sequence
>
> (1) register group X with non-root
> (2) non-root app A binds group X
> (3) kernel unregisters group X
> (4) something else in kernel reregisters group ID X but root-only
> -> non-root app A is bound to root-only group X
I'm not sure that "the only sensible thing to do" is right, we
do allow dynamic registration of netlink families and do the
module reference thing anyway (admittedly, I never liked that
and the autoloading part very much). I guess it depends on how
this will be used in the end, if you really do have a group per
device or something like that you probably need to be able to
unregister at any time. But as I said previously I believe its
more in the spirit of netlink to group things logically by
message type, in which case some core part would own the
family and not a single device.
If you do want the dynamic unregistation *and* the non-root mc
listening then I guess you don't have a choice but to unbind
sockets at unregistration. That shouln't be a real problem,
without having though much about it, I believe just clearing
the mc group from the bitmap and calling netlink_update_subscriptions
should be fine.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-29 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-22 9:47 [PATCH] [-mm] ACPI: export ACPI events via netlink Zhang Rui
2007-05-22 10:05 ` Samuel Ortiz
2007-05-22 10:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-22 11:03 ` jamal
2007-05-23 1:17 ` Zhang Rui
2007-05-27 9:40 ` Zhang Rui
[not found] ` <4466a10705270629h31977813hd2fc8330bcd87f78@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-27 13:34 ` Fwd: " jamal
2007-06-14 8:59 ` Zhang Rui
2007-06-14 11:28 ` jamal
2007-06-15 1:01 ` Zhang Rui
2007-06-15 10:26 ` jamal
2007-06-18 15:01 ` jamal
2007-06-19 3:32 ` Zhang Rui
2007-06-25 22:40 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-26 13:33 ` jamal
2007-06-26 13:42 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-27 23:24 ` jamal
2007-06-28 9:45 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 11:17 ` jamal
2007-06-29 11:28 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 11:48 ` jamal
2007-06-29 11:58 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 11:51 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 11:59 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 12:04 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 12:01 ` jamal
2007-06-29 12:09 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 12:46 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 12:48 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 12:51 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:02 ` jamal
2007-06-29 13:12 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:27 ` jamal
2007-06-29 13:32 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:13 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 12:57 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:11 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:15 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:23 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2007-06-29 13:34 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:44 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:49 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 13:53 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 14:05 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 14:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-29 14:56 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-30 15:32 ` jamal
2007-07-02 8:43 ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-02 12:56 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-02 14:34 ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-02 14:38 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-02 14:48 ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-02 22:12 ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 10:08 ` [PATCH] netlink: allocate group bitmaps dynamically Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 12:05 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-03 14:09 ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 14:11 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-07-03 14:32 ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 23:13 ` Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 10:09 ` [PATCH] netlink: allow removing multicast groups Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 10:10 ` [PATCH] generic netlink: dynamic " Johannes Berg
2007-07-03 11:56 ` Fwd: [PATCH] [-mm] ACPI: export ACPI events via netlink Patrick McHardy
2007-06-29 13:24 ` jamal
2007-06-29 13:11 ` jamal
2007-06-19 11:30 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-19 16:20 ` jamal
2007-06-20 11:25 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-21 15:47 ` jamal
2007-06-22 10:09 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-25 17:08 ` jamal
2007-06-26 8:50 ` Johannes Berg
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