From: "Kok, Auke" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andrew Grover <andy.grover@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jason Lunz <lunz@reflexsecurity.com>,
Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"Ronciak, John" <john.ronciak@intel.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
'Stephen Hemminger' <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Gospodarek <andy@greyhouse.net>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Splitting e1000 (Was: Re: e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ?)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:32:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <468D393B.2040503@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <468AD23A.4090904@intel.com>
Kok, Auke wrote:
> Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 07:31:55PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote:
>>> all the pci-express adapters that are supported are extremely similar:
>>>
>>> - they all support 2 queues
>>> - the register sets are (almost entirely) identical
>>> - there is minimal feature variance between 82571/2/3, esb2lan, ich8/9
>>>
>>> The major differences between 82571/2/3, esb2lan and ich8/9 are PHY-based
>>> (4 different PHY's basically, one for 82571/2/3, one for esb2lan and 2 for
>>> ich8/9, excluding fiber and serdes here) and NVM/EEPROM.
>>>
>>> ich8 and 9 are consistent with 82571/2/3 - on-board nic's based on the
>>> 82571 design with different PHY's, and added features for the newer
>>> demands. A driver split here would be possible but not justified IMHO.
>> Sounds like the perfect split to me. I'd suggest you rip out support
>> for older hardware from your new driver and do the resulting simplification
>> and post a new e1000e driver for this hardware, removing existing support
>> from e1000 at the same time. Later you can do the feature flags and similar
>> improvements to the old driver driver in an incremental fashion without the
>> burden of having to keep up with new hardware.
>
> Jeff,
>
> it seems that this is the preferred path to go including "e1000e" as the new
> driver name for all 8257x family based adapters. Just for the record I'd like
> your acknowledgement on the following plan:
>
>
> 1a) We post an e1000e driver that implements support for all 8257x (ich8/9,
> es2lan etc) devices.
> 1b) We post a patch that drops support for all of these devices in the form of a
> pci-ID removal (no code removed) for e1000.
>
> 2) we post patches that remove code support for non-8254x devices at a later stage.
>
> 3) we backport any and all cleanups and flags from e1000e to e1000 where applicable.
>
>
> This plan leaves a significant gap that I'm worrying about: after step (1) we
> basically have forced everyone to switch without providing a fallback (allthough
> we have our out-of-tree driver, but no in-kernel version in case issues exist).
Actually, this plan temporarily allows users to manually bind "e1000" to
pci-express adapters in case they wish to do so, thereby providing a fallback
driver for everyone.
If we leave the "e1000" driver untouched (not removing code support for pci-e
adapters) for at least a full kernel release, this should be reasonable for
everyone I hope. After we have gained some confidence in "e1000e" we can start
removing code from "e1000" for pci-e adapters.
How does that sound?
Auke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-05 18:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-29 17:29 e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ? Mark McLoughlin
2007-06-29 17:50 ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-29 19:51 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 20:22 ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-29 20:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 21:24 ` Mark McLoughlin
2007-07-02 23:52 ` Williams, Mitch A
2007-07-03 0:10 ` Rick Jones
2007-07-03 0:55 ` Jason Lunz
2007-07-03 1:44 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-03 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-03 13:13 ` [E1000-devel] " Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 20:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 21:39 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 22:03 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-29 22:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 23:24 ` RFR: New e1000 driver (e1000new), was: " Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 23:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-08 18:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 20:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-08 22:01 ` [E1000-devel] " Jonathan Lundell
2007-06-30 3:32 ` Roland Dreier
2007-07-08 18:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-06 19:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-07 0:13 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-07 12:23 ` James Chapman
2007-07-08 18:41 ` James Chapman
2007-07-07 18:59 ` Andrew Grover
2007-06-29 23:57 ` Andrew Grover
2007-06-30 0:02 ` Andrew Grover
2007-06-30 0:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 1:29 ` Jim McCullough
2007-06-30 1:31 ` Jim McCullough
2007-06-30 2:34 ` [E1000-devel] " Kok, Auke
2007-06-30 2:31 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-30 8:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-03 22:48 ` Splitting e1000 (Was: Re: e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ?) Kok, Auke
2007-07-05 18:32 ` Kok, Auke [this message]
2007-07-06 0:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-07 0:14 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-07 13:58 ` James Chapman
2007-07-07 19:04 ` Francois Romieu
2007-07-07 21:54 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-08 1:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-08 10:07 ` James Chapman
2007-07-08 16:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-08 18:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 19:24 ` Andrew Grover
2007-07-09 17:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 20:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-09 18:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-09 18:46 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-09 19:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-09 20:46 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-09 22:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-13 21:45 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-13 22:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-13 22:13 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-08 18:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 17:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 14:31 ` e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ? James Chapman
2007-06-30 16:29 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-01 10:45 ` James Chapman
2007-06-30 8:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-29 22:16 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 22:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 21:39 ` Andy Gospodarek
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