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From: "Kok, Auke" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Grover <andy.grover@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Lunz <lunz@reflexsecurity.com>,
	Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
	e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Ronciak, John" <john.ronciak@intel.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	'Stephen Hemminger' <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Gospodarek <andy@greyhouse.net>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Splitting e1000 (Was: Re: e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ?)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:32:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <468D393B.2040503@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <468AD23A.4090904@intel.com>

Kok, Auke wrote:
> Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 07:31:55PM -0700, Kok, Auke wrote:
>>> all the pci-express adapters that are supported are extremely similar:
>>>
>>> - they all support 2 queues
>>> - the register sets are (almost entirely) identical
>>> - there is minimal feature variance between 82571/2/3, esb2lan, ich8/9
>>>
>>> The major differences between 82571/2/3, esb2lan and ich8/9 are PHY-based 
>>> (4 different PHY's basically, one for 82571/2/3, one for esb2lan and 2 for 
>>> ich8/9, excluding fiber and serdes here) and NVM/EEPROM.
>>>
>>> ich8 and 9 are consistent with 82571/2/3 - on-board nic's based on the 
>>> 82571 design with different PHY's, and added features for the newer 
>>> demands. A driver split here would be possible but not justified IMHO.
>> Sounds like the perfect split to me.  I'd suggest you rip out support
>> for older hardware from your new driver and do the resulting simplification
>> and post a new e1000e driver for this hardware, removing existing support
>> from e1000 at the same time.  Later you can do the feature flags and similar
>> improvements to the old driver driver in an incremental fashion without the
>> burden of having to keep up with new hardware.
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> it seems that this is the preferred path to go including "e1000e" as the new 
> driver name for all 8257x family based adapters. Just for the record I'd like 
> your acknowledgement on the following plan:
> 
> 
> 1a) We post an e1000e driver that implements support for all 8257x (ich8/9, 
> es2lan etc) devices.
> 1b) We post a patch that drops support for all of these devices in the form of a 
> pci-ID removal (no code removed) for e1000.
> 
> 2) we post patches that remove code support for non-8254x devices at a later stage.
> 
> 3) we backport any and all cleanups and flags from e1000e to e1000 where applicable.
> 
> 
> This plan leaves a significant gap that I'm worrying about: after step (1) we 
> basically have forced everyone to switch without providing a fallback (allthough 
> we have our out-of-tree driver, but no in-kernel version in case issues exist).

Actually, this plan temporarily allows users to manually bind "e1000" to 
pci-express adapters in case they wish to do so, thereby providing a fallback 
driver for everyone.

If we leave the "e1000" driver untouched (not removing code support for pci-e 
adapters) for at least a full kernel release, this should be reasonable for 
everyone I hope. After we have gained some confidence in "e1000e" we can start 
removing code from "e1000" for pci-e adapters.

How does that sound?

Auke

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-05 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-29 17:29 e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ? Mark McLoughlin
2007-06-29 17:50 ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-29 19:51   ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 20:22     ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-29 20:59     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 21:24     ` Mark McLoughlin
2007-07-02 23:52       ` Williams, Mitch A
2007-07-03  0:10         ` Rick Jones
2007-07-03  0:55           ` Jason Lunz
2007-07-03  1:44             ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-03  7:15         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-03 13:13           ` [E1000-devel] " Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 20:55   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 21:39     ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 22:03       ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-29 22:11         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 23:24           ` RFR: New e1000 driver (e1000new), was: " Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 23:38             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-08 18:20               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 20:14                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-08 22:01                   ` [E1000-devel] " Jonathan Lundell
2007-06-30  3:32             ` Roland Dreier
2007-07-08 18:20               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-06 19:07             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-07  0:13               ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-07 12:23                 ` James Chapman
2007-07-08 18:41                   ` James Chapman
2007-07-07 18:59               ` Andrew Grover
2007-06-29 23:57           ` Andrew Grover
2007-06-30  0:02             ` Andrew Grover
2007-06-30  0:09             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30  1:29               ` Jim McCullough
2007-06-30  1:31                 ` Jim McCullough
2007-06-30  2:34                 ` [E1000-devel] " Kok, Auke
2007-06-30  2:31               ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-30  8:25                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-03 22:48                   ` Splitting e1000 (Was: Re: e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ?) Kok, Auke
2007-07-05 18:32                     ` Kok, Auke [this message]
2007-07-06  0:22                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-07  0:14                       ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-07 13:58                         ` James Chapman
2007-07-07 19:04                         ` Francois Romieu
2007-07-07 21:54                           ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-08  1:32                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-08 10:07                               ` James Chapman
2007-07-08 16:29                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-08 18:06                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 19:24                                   ` Andrew Grover
2007-07-09 17:56                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 20:05                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-09 18:39                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-09 18:46                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-09 19:36                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-09 20:46                                       ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-09 22:26                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-13 21:45                                           ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-13 22:08                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-13 22:13                                               ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-08 18:08                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 17:41                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 14:31                 ` e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ? James Chapman
2007-06-30 16:29                   ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-01 10:45                     ` James Chapman
2007-06-30  8:26             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-29 22:16         ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 22:07       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 21:39   ` Andy Gospodarek

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