netdev.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Andrew Grover <andy.grover@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
	"Kok, Auke" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ronciak,  John" <john.ronciak@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Francois Romieu <romieu@fr.zoreil.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Lunz <lunz@reflexsecurity.com>,
	Andy Gospodarek <andy@greyhouse.net>
Subject: Re: Splitting e1000 (Was: Re: e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ?)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:56:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <469276EB.4090502@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c0a09e5c0707081224o5dd34da6m2a1c16f4a2b4f59d@mail.gmail.com>

Andrew Grover wrote:
> On 7/8/07, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:
>> * e1000 gets feedback
>> * Intel disappears for months
>> * Intel reappears with e1000 rewrite
> 
> * you ask them for another complete (simpler) rewrite
> 
>> * Intel fights tooth and nail when the driver is not accepted verboten
> 
> I don't think it must be as-is (i.e. replacing e1000 for all HW) but
> don't throw away all the work they've done in architecting the driver
> to cleanly handle multiple chip generations.
> 
> How about:
> 
> 1) Considering e1000new's current design, but for ICH9 only
> 2) test test test
> 3) Sometime in the future, considering incrementally moving previous
> PCIe generations' support from e1000 to e1000new (like I initially
> wanted, since that at least means there would be some technical reason
> for where the split occurs :-)

That plan would be fine...  as long as the e1000new driver internals 
were restructured as I've been describing.

If one arrives at a driver containing an internal API that is flexible 
enough to implement support for almost -any- NIC, then that's a sign 
that it needs to be organized in a different fashion.

	Jeff




-------------------------------------------------------------------------
This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express
Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take
control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.
http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-09 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-29 17:29 e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ? Mark McLoughlin
2007-06-29 17:50 ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-29 19:51   ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 20:22     ` Jason Lunz
2007-06-29 20:59     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 21:24     ` Mark McLoughlin
2007-07-02 23:52       ` Williams, Mitch A
2007-07-03  0:10         ` Rick Jones
2007-07-03  0:55           ` Jason Lunz
2007-07-03  1:44             ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-03  7:15         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-03 13:13           ` [E1000-devel] " Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 20:55   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 21:39     ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 22:03       ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-29 22:11         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 23:24           ` RFR: New e1000 driver (e1000new), was: " Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 23:38             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-08 18:20               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 20:14                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-08 22:01                   ` [E1000-devel] " Jonathan Lundell
2007-06-30  3:32             ` Roland Dreier
2007-07-08 18:20               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-06 19:07             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-07  0:13               ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-07 12:23                 ` James Chapman
2007-07-08 18:41                   ` James Chapman
2007-07-07 18:59               ` Andrew Grover
2007-06-29 23:57           ` Andrew Grover
2007-06-30  0:02             ` Andrew Grover
2007-06-30  0:09             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30  1:29               ` Jim McCullough
2007-06-30  1:31                 ` Jim McCullough
2007-06-30  2:34                 ` [E1000-devel] " Kok, Auke
2007-06-30  2:31               ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-30  8:25                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-03 22:48                   ` Splitting e1000 (Was: Re: e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ?) Kok, Auke
2007-07-05 18:32                     ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-06  0:22                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-07  0:14                       ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-07 13:58                         ` James Chapman
2007-07-07 19:04                         ` Francois Romieu
2007-07-07 21:54                           ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-08  1:32                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-08 10:07                               ` James Chapman
2007-07-08 16:29                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-08 18:06                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 19:24                                   ` Andrew Grover
2007-07-09 17:56                                     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-07-08 20:05                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-09 18:39                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-09 18:46                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-09 19:36                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-09 20:46                                       ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-09 22:26                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-13 21:45                                           ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-13 22:08                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-13 22:13                                               ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-08 18:08                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-08 17:41                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 14:31                 ` e1000: backport ich9 support from 7.5.5 ? James Chapman
2007-06-30 16:29                   ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-01 10:45                     ` James Chapman
2007-06-30  8:26             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-29 22:16         ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-29 22:07       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 21:39   ` Andy Gospodarek

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=469276EB.4090502@garzik.org \
    --to=jeff@garzik.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=andy.grover@gmail.com \
    --cc=andy@greyhouse.net \
    --cc=arjan@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net \
    --cc=hch@infradead.org \
    --cc=john.ronciak@intel.com \
    --cc=lunz@reflexsecurity.com \
    --cc=markmc@redhat.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=romieu@fr.zoreil.com \
    --cc=shemminger@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).