Re: [RFT] r8169 changes against 2.6.23-rc3

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* Re: [RFT] r8169 changes against 2.6.23-rc3
       [not found] <20070818100701.GA20703@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com>
@ 2007-08-19  2:41 ` Bruce Cole
  2007-08-20  8:34   ` Dirk
  2007-08-20 18:58 ` Chuck Lever
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Cole @ 2007-08-19  2:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Francois Romieu; +Cc: netdev, bacole, David Gundersen

Francois Romieu wrote:
> The latest serie of r8169 changes is available against 2.6.23-rc3 as:
> http://www.fr.zoreil.com/people/francois/misc/20070818-2.6.23-rc3-r8169-test.patch 
>
> or (tarball sits one level higher):
>
> http://www.fr.zoreil.com/linux/kernel/2.6.x/2.6.23-rc3/r8169-20070818/
>
> or (rebase prone branch)
>   
I applied these patches (except for the eeprom read support patch) to 
2.6.23-rc3, and it did not fix the TX performance problem.  The 
busy-wait workaround is still required to dramatically improve 
performance.  I experimented some more and found that ndelay(10) is a 
sufficient delay within the for loop, as David Gundersen suggested.  
With some diagnostic code, I can see that when there is a NPQ problem, 
the busy wait calls ndelay(10) 4 or 5 times before the NPQ bit clears, 
and meanwhile the TX queue only contains a low number of entries (2 to 5 
typically).  This is a bit surprising, I would have guessed the root 
problem related to the queue filling up. 

I was then suspicious that maybe there was an issue with TX interrupts 
not being serviced in a timely manner due to the NAPI RX support, but 
making the TX processing work without NAPI did not solve things.

I took a look at tcpdump output from both the sender&receiver and found 
that when there is a problem, the sender is apparently delaying 
transmission of packets.  TCP then retransmits, and duplicate TCP 
sequences arrive at the receiver at that later time.

So it seems that when the driver tries to queue a packet while the 
controller is busy processing the queue, the newly queued packet does 
not get noticed by the controller (until further packet activity occurs).
Perhaps there is a problem with the memory barriers when adding to the 
TX queue, but I'm a newbie on linux kernel memory barriers.

tcpdump sample follows, with the realtek interface on the sending side.  
In the sample, notice that the data at sequence #1429358 is 
retransmitted by the sender after .3 seconds, but the receiver receives 
both copies at basically the same time (delayed by approximately .3 
seconds).


Sender:

13:42:10.325958 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1414878:1416326(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.325979 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1416326:1417774(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.325999 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1417774:1419222(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326018 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1419222:1420670(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326036 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1420670:1422118(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326056 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1422118:1423566(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326076 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1423566:1425014(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326094 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1425014:1426462(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326114 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1426462:1427910(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326565 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1417774 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346009 226653029>
13:42:10.326607 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1427910:1429358 (1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326614 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1429358:1430806(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326620 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: P 
1430806:1431325(519) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.326626 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1427910 win 1907 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346009 226653029>
13:42:10.366646 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1429358 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346050 226653029>
13:42:10.652691 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1429358:1430806(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653356 
4346050> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:10.653636 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1430806 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346337 226653029>
13:42:10.653671 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1431325 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346337 226653029>
13:42:10.653698 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1431325 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346337 226653029,nop,nop,sack 1 
{1429358:1430806}>

Receiver:
13:42:11.516820 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1414878:1416326(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.516841 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1416326:1417774(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.516856 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1417774:1419222(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.516881 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1419222:1420670(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.516895 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1420670:1422118(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.516923 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1422118:1423566(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.516938 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1423566:1425014(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.516952 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1425014:1426462(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.516975 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1426462:1427910(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.517148 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1417774 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346009 226653029>
13:42:11.517173 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1427910 win 1907 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346009 226653029>
13:42:11.517471 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1427910:1429358(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.557260 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1429358 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346050 226653029>
13:42:11.843655 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1429358:1430806(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.843704 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: P 
1430806:1431325(519) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653029 
4346009> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.843720 IP 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn > 192.168.1.12.60994: . 
1429358:1430806(1448) ack 5775 win 54 <nop,nop,timestamp 226653356 
4346050> NBT Session Packet: Session Message
13:42:11.844342 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1430806 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346337 226653029>
13:42:11.844366 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1431325 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346337 226653029>
13:42:11.844383 IP 192.168.1.12.60994 > 192.168.1.11.netbios-ssn: . ack 
1431325 win 2056 <nop,nop,timestamp 4346337 226653029,nop,nop,sack 1 
{1429358:1430806}>


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* Re: [RFT] r8169 changes against 2.6.23-rc3
  2007-08-19  2:41 ` [RFT] r8169 changes against 2.6.23-rc3 Bruce Cole
@ 2007-08-20  8:34   ` Dirk
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Dirk @ 2007-08-20  8:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netdev

On 8/19/07, Bruce Cole <bacole@gmail.com> wrote:
> So it seems that when the driver tries to queue a packet while the
> controller is busy processing the queue, the newly queued packet does
> not get noticed by the controller (until further packet activity occurs).
> Perhaps there is a problem with the memory barriers when adding to the
> TX queue, but I'm a newbie on linux kernel memory barriers.

One thing I noticed a while ago (march) is that floodpinging (ping -f)
the r8169 host from an external system also increases performance
without changing code.

My original post about the problem:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=117207362010321&w=2

I ended up (until now perhaps :-) with disabling the onboard nic and
adding an e1000 card.


Kind regards,
Dirk

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* Re: [RFT] r8169 changes against 2.6.23-rc3
       [not found] <20070818100701.GA20703@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com>
  2007-08-19  2:41 ` [RFT] r8169 changes against 2.6.23-rc3 Bruce Cole
@ 2007-08-20 18:58 ` Chuck Lever
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Chuck Lever @ 2007-08-20 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Francois Romieu; +Cc: netdev ML

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Francois Romieu wrote:
> The latest serie of r8169 changes is available against 2.6.23-rc3 as:
> http://www.fr.zoreil.com/people/francois/misc/20070818-2.6.23-rc3-r8169-test.patch 
> 
> or (tarball sits one level higher):
> 
> http://www.fr.zoreil.com/linux/kernel/2.6.x/2.6.23-rc3/r8169-20070818/
> 
> or (rebase prone branch)
> 
> git://electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com/home/romieu/linux-2.6.git#r8169
>  
> Please do not clone your whole git kernel tree from here, thanks.
> 
> Changes (most recent first):
> 
> - eeprom read support
> - phy init cleanup
> - PHY init for the 8168
> - make room for more PHY init changes
> - remove dead wood
> - add MAC identifiers
> - MSI support
> - correct phy parameters for the 8110SC
> 
> The first patch of the serie ("correct phy parameters for the 8110SC") has
> been elaborated with Edward Hsu from Realtek and it should help some owners
> of 8169 chipsets. If there is no report of regression for it on any
> chispet and it is reported to fix someone's problems, I will send it to
> Jeff Garzik for inclusion in 2.6.23 as a bugfix.
> 
> Anything else in this serie has not been tested on a wide scale nor acked
> by the manufacturer: I consider it post 2.6.23 material. That being said,
> the MSI changes seem fine and the "PHY init for the 8168" patch could make
> a difference for the users of the 8168 whose link is not properly
> negotiated.
> 
> Success and failure reports or patches will be welcome. Please Cc: netdev
> and include "r8169" in the Subject.

Tested 2.6.23-rc3 plus your patch on my dual-R8169 mini-ITX Jetway 
J7F4K1G2E mainboard.  No problems to report.

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* [RFT] r8169 changes against 2.6.23-rc3
@ 2007-08-21 19:32 Bruce Cole
  2007-08-22  5:51 ` Bruce Cole
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Cole @ 2007-08-21 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Francois Romieu, netdev; +Cc: bacole

On 8/20/07, Dirk wrote:
 >> So it seems that when the driver tries to queue a packet while the
 >> controller is busy processing the queue, the newly queued packet does
 >> not get noticed by the controller (until further packet activity 
occurs).
 >> Perhaps there is a problem with the memory barriers when adding to the
 >> TX queue, but I'm a newbie on linux kernel memory barriers.
 >
 >One thing I noticed a while ago (march) is that floodpinging (ping -f)
 >the r8169 host from an external system also increases performance
 >without changing code.
Yes, I just tried this and saw the same result.  Makes perfect sense - 
if the TX queue is normally getting stuck until TCP retransmits, then 
keeping the TX queue busy keeps the queue from remaining stuck.
I think this is a good demonstration that the underlying problem is a 
stuck TX queue as suggested.

 >I ended up (until now perhaps :-) with disabling the onboard nic and
 >adding an e1000 card.

Yes, ditching the realtek interface and going with an ad-on nic seems to 
be what everyone has been doing to get around this problem.  Perhaps 
you'd like to try the busy-wait workaround with ndelay(10)?  It has 
saved me from buying an e1000 card as well.

Speaking of the e1000, I notice that its TX queue processing code for 
that driver includes spin_lock_irqsave()/spin_unlock_irqrestore() 
protection on access to the queue.  The r8169 driver seems to be missing 
equivalent code.  Last time I dealt with kernel locking bugs was in the 
old days of splnet()/splx(), so I could use some help here, but I 
suspect this could be fixed with more careful locking.

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* Re: [RFT] r8169 changes against 2.6.23-rc3
  2007-08-21 19:32 Bruce Cole
@ 2007-08-22  5:51 ` Bruce Cole
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Cole @ 2007-08-22  5:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Francois Romieu, netdev; +Cc: David Gundersen, bacole

So I did some experimenting with locking, but eventually found that this 
chunk:

@@ -2677,10 +2681,18 @@ static void rtl8169_tx_interrupt(struct 
net_device *dev,

     if (tp->dirty_tx != dirty_tx) {
         tp->dirty_tx = dirty_tx;
- -        smp_wmb();
- -        if (netif_queue_stopped(dev) &&
- -            (TX_BUFFS_AVAIL(tp) >= MAX_SKB_FRAGS)) {
- -            netif_wake_queue(dev);
+        smp_mb();
+        if (unlikely(netif_queue_stopped(dev))) {
+            netif_tx_lock(dev);
+                if (TX_BUFFS_AVAIL(tp) >= MAX_SKB_FRAGS)
+                netif_wake_queue(dev);
+            if (dirty_tx != tp->cur_tx)
+                RTL_W8(TxPoll, NPQ);
+            netif_tx_unlock(dev);
+        } else if (dirty_tx != tp->cur_tx) {
+            netif_tx_lock(dev);
+            RTL_W8(TxPoll, NPQ);
+            netif_tx_unlock(dev);
         }
     }
 }

from the patch in http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg33960.html
was sufficient to fix the stuck TX queue bug without the busy-wait.  
Actually
just the else portion of the above chunk was sufficient in my testing, 
without
the barrier change or the if statement change.

David Gundersen pointed me to this potential fix days ago, but I didn't
consider it first since the change had (presumably intentionally) been 
dropped from
the set of diffs Francois pointed me to.  Given that I had reported the same
problem as David Gundersen (and Dirk, and other samba users...) I 
thought this
patch had been ruled out.  Apparently not.  Hopefully this can be dusted off
and made into a fairly high priority fix as it has been biting realtek users
since last year at least.

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