From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][NETNS] Make ifindex generation per-namespace
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:55:32 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <470C9384.9050102@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1przoxk1v.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org> writes:
>
>> Currently indexes for netdevices come sequentially one by
>> one, and the same stays true even for devices that are
>> created for namespaces.
>>
>> Side effects of this are:
>> * lo device has not 1 index in a namespace. This may break
>> some userspace that relies on it (and AFAIR something
>> really broke in OpenVZ VEs without this);
>
> As it happens lo hasn't been registered first for some time
> so it hasn't had ifindex of 1 in the normal kernel.
>
>> * after some time namespaces will have devices with indexes
>> like 1000000 os similar. This might be confusing for a
>> human (tools will not mind).
>
> Only if we wind up creating that many devices.
Nope. Create and destroy new net ns for 10000 times and you'll get it.
>> So move the (currently "global" and static) ifindex variable
>> on the struct net, making the indexes allocation look more
>> like on a standalone machine.
>>
>> Moreover - when we have indexes intersect between namespaces,
>> we may catch more BUGs in the future related to "wrong device
>> was found for a given index".
>
> Not yet.
>
> I know there are several data structures internal to the kernel that
> are indexed by ifindex, and not struct net_device *. There is the
> iflink field in struct net_device. We need a way to refer to network
> devices in other namespaces in rtnetlink in an unambiguous way. I
> don't see any real problems with a global ifindex assignment until
> we start migrating applications.
>
> So please hold off on this until the kernel has been audited and
> we have removed all of the uses of ifindex that assume ifindex is
> global, that we can find.
Ok.
> Right now a namespace local ifindex seems to be just asking for
> trouble.
You said the same about caching the global pid on the task_struct,
but looks like you were wrong ;) Just kidding.
> Eric
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-10 8:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-09 12:19 [PATCH][NETNS] Make ifindex generation per-namespace Pavel Emelyanov
2007-10-09 14:48 ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-10-09 16:18 ` David Stevens
2007-10-09 17:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-09 20:11 ` David Miller
2007-10-09 21:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-09 21:17 ` David Miller
2007-10-09 20:12 ` David Miller
2007-10-09 17:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-10 8:55 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2007-10-10 18:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-10 18:34 ` Johannes Berg
2007-10-10 19:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-11 9:32 ` Johannes Berg
2007-10-11 17:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-09 20:12 ` David Miller
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