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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Make nicer CONFIG_NET_NS=n case code
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:58:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47297933.7090609@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1wst2hjo5.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman a écrit :
> Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> writes:
> 
>> Eric W. Biederman a écrit :
>>> Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Definitly wanted here. Thank you.
>>>> One more refcounting on each socket creation/deletion was expensive.
>>> Really?  Have you actually measured that?  If the overhead is
>>> measurable and expensive we may want to look at per cpu counters or
>>> something like that.  So far I don't have any numbers that say any
>>> of the network namespace work inherently has any overhead.
>> It seems that on some old opterons (two 246 for example),
>> "if (atomic_dec_and_test(&net->count))" is rather expensive yes :(
> 
> I won't argue that atomic_dec_and_test is costly.  My gut feel is that
> socket creation/destruction is sufficiently rare that such a test
> would be lost in the noise.  Doing anything more sophisticated is
> likely to be less readable, and unless we can measure some overhead
> my preference right now is to keep the code stupid and simple.  Which
> usually has a good icache footprint.

I agree with you that with current state, this atomic_inc/atomic_dec_and_test 
wont come in profiles unless a trivial bench is writen

for(;;){close(socket(....));}

If David or another dev can eliminate the atomic inc/dec on device refcount 
cost for each packet traveling, the socket creation/destruction would 
certainly raise.

Other contention points is the mnt_count (yet another refcount) in "struct 
vfsmount", a truly useless refcount as I never had (and nobody had) to 
un-mount sock_mnt :)



  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-01  6:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-31 19:19 [PATCH 0/5] Make nicer CONFIG_NET_NS=n case code Pavel Emelyanov
2007-10-31 18:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-10-31 21:35   ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-10-31 22:05   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-31 22:40     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-10-31 23:31       ` David Miller
2007-11-01  0:58         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-01  0:51       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-01  6:58         ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2007-11-01  7:02           ` David Miller
2007-10-31 19:23 ` [PATCH 1/5][NETNS] Make the init/exit hooks checks outside the loop Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01  7:43   ` David Miller
2007-10-31 19:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] Relax the reference counting of init_net_ns Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01  7:43   ` David Miller
2007-10-31 19:28 ` [PATCH 3/5] Hide the dead code in the net_namespace.c Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01  7:45   ` David Miller
2007-10-31 19:31 ` [PATCH 4/5] Mark the setup_net as __net_init Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01  7:46   ` David Miller
2007-10-31 19:32 ` [PATCH 5/5] Hide the net_ns kmem cache Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01  7:47   ` David Miller
2007-10-31 21:37 ` [PATCH 0/5] Make nicer CONFIG_NET_NS=n case code Daniel Lezcano

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