From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: ak@suse.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org, acme@redhat.com,
Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] INET : removes per bucket rwlock in tcp/dccp ehash table
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:31:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <472DAD90.4050709@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071103.162337.83099185.davem@davemloft.net>
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David Miller a écrit :
> From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 00:18:14 +0100
>
>> On Thursday 01 November 2007 11:16:20 Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>
>> Some quick comments:
>>
>>> +#if defined(CONFIG_SMP) || defined(CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING)
>>> +/*
>>> + * Instead of using one rwlock for each inet_ehash_bucket, we use a table of locks
>>> + * The size of this table is a power of two and depends on the number of CPUS.
>>> + */
>> This shouldn't be hard coded based on NR_CPUS, but be done on runtime
>> based on num_possible_cpus(). This is better for kernels with a large
>> NR_CPUS, but which typically run on much smaller systems (like
>> distribution kernels)
>
> I think this is a good idea. Eric, could you make this change?
Yes of course, since using a non constant value for masking is cheap.
But I suspect distributions kernels enable CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU so
num_possible_cpus() will be NR_CPUS.
>
>> Also the EHASH_LOCK_SZ == 0 special case is a little strange. Why did
>> you add that?
>
> He explained this in another reply, because ifdefs are ugly.
This will vanish if done on runtime anyway.
>
>> And as a unrelated node have you tried converting the rwlocks
>> into normal spinlocks? spinlocks should be somewhat cheaper
>> because they have less cache protocol overhead and with
>> the huge thash tables in Linux the chain walks should be short
>> anyways so not doing this in parallel is probably not a big issue.
>> At some point I also had a crazy idea of using a special locking
>> scheme that special cases the common case that a hash chain
>> has only one member and doesn't take a look for that at all.
>
> I agree.
>
> There was movement at one point to get rid of all rwlock's in the
> kernel, I personally think they are pointless. Any use that makes
> "sense" is a case where the code should be rewritten to decrease the
> lock hold time or convert to RCU.
>
I agree too, rwlocks are more expensive when contention is low, so let do this
rwlock->spinlock change on next step (separate patch), because it means
changing also lhash_lock.
Thanks to Jarek, I added locks cleanup in dccp_fini()
[PATCH] INET : removes per bucket rwlock in tcp/dccp ehash table
As done two years ago on IP route cache table (commit
22c047ccbc68fa8f3fa57f0e8f906479a062c426) , we can avoid using one lock per
hash bucket for the huge TCP/DCCP hash tables.
On a typical x86_64 platform, this saves about 2MB or 4MB of ram, for litle
performance differences. (we hit a different cache line for the rwlock, but
then the bucket cache line have a better sharing factor among cpus, since we
dirty it less often). For netstat or ss commands that want a full scan of hash
table, we perform fewer memory accesses.
Using a 'small' table of hashed rwlocks should be more than enough to provide
correct SMP concurrency between different buckets, without using too much
memory. Sizing of this table depends on num_possible_cpus() and various CONFIG
settings.
This patch provides some locking abstraction that may ease a future work using
a different model for TCP/DCCP table.
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Acked-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
include/net/inet_hashtables.h | 71 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
net/dccp/proto.c | 9 +++-
net/ipv4/inet_diag.c | 9 ++--
net/ipv4/inet_hashtables.c | 7 +--
net/ipv4/inet_timewait_sock.c | 13 +++--
net/ipv4/tcp.c | 4 -
net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c | 11 ++--
net/ipv6/inet6_hashtables.c | 19 ++++----
8 files changed, 106 insertions(+), 37 deletions(-)
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diff --git a/include/net/inet_hashtables.h b/include/net/inet_hashtables.h
index 4427dcd..8461cda 100644
--- a/include/net/inet_hashtables.h
+++ b/include/net/inet_hashtables.h
@@ -37,7 +37,6 @@
* I'll experiment with dynamic table growth later.
*/
struct inet_ehash_bucket {
- rwlock_t lock;
struct hlist_head chain;
struct hlist_head twchain;
};
@@ -100,6 +99,9 @@ struct inet_hashinfo {
* TIME_WAIT sockets use a separate chain (twchain).
*/
struct inet_ehash_bucket *ehash;
+ rwlock_t *ehash_locks;
+ unsigned int ehash_size;
+ unsigned int ehash_locks_mask;
/* Ok, let's try this, I give up, we do need a local binding
* TCP hash as well as the others for fast bind/connect.
@@ -107,7 +109,7 @@ struct inet_hashinfo {
struct inet_bind_hashbucket *bhash;
unsigned int bhash_size;
- unsigned int ehash_size;
+ /* Note : 4 bytes padding on 64 bit arches */
/* All sockets in TCP_LISTEN state will be in here. This is the only
* table where wildcard'd TCP sockets can exist. Hash function here
@@ -134,6 +136,62 @@ static inline struct inet_ehash_bucket *inet_ehash_bucket(
return &hashinfo->ehash[hash & (hashinfo->ehash_size - 1)];
}
+static inline rwlock_t *inet_ehash_lockp(
+ struct inet_hashinfo *hashinfo,
+ unsigned int hash)
+{
+ return &hashinfo->ehash_locks[hash & hashinfo->ehash_locks_mask];
+}
+
+static inline int inet_ehash_locks_alloc(struct inet_hashinfo *hashinfo)
+{
+ unsigned int i, size = 256;
+#if defined(CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING)
+ unsigned int nr_pcpus = 2;
+#else
+ unsigned int nr_pcpus = num_possible_cpus();
+#endif
+ if (nr_pcpus >= 4)
+ size = 512;
+ if (nr_pcpus >= 8)
+ size = 1024;
+ if (nr_pcpus >= 16)
+ size = 2048;
+ if (nr_pcpus >= 32)
+ size = 4096;
+ if (sizeof(rwlock_t) != 0) {
+#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
+ if (size * sizeof(rwlock_t) > PAGE_SIZE)
+ hashinfo->ehash_locks = vmalloc(size * sizeof(rwlock_t));
+ else
+#endif
+ hashinfo->ehash_locks = kmalloc(size * sizeof(rwlock_t),
+ GFP_KERNEL);
+ if (!hashinfo->ehash_locks)
+ return ENOMEM;
+ for (i = 0; i < size; i++)
+ rwlock_init(&hashinfo->ehash_locks[i]);
+ }
+ hashinfo->ehash_locks_mask = size - 1;
+ return 0;
+}
+
+static inline void inet_ehash_locks_free(struct inet_hashinfo *hashinfo)
+{
+ if (hashinfo->ehash_locks) {
+#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
+ unsigned int size = (hashinfo->ehash_locks_mask + 1) *
+ sizeof(rwlock_t);
+ if (size > PAGE_SIZE)
+ vfree(hashinfo->ehash_locks);
+ else
+#else
+ kfree(hashinfo->ehash_locks);
+#endif
+ hashinfo->ehash_locks = NULL;
+ }
+}
+
extern struct inet_bind_bucket *
inet_bind_bucket_create(struct kmem_cache *cachep,
struct inet_bind_hashbucket *head,
@@ -222,7 +280,7 @@ static inline void __inet_hash(struct inet_hashinfo *hashinfo,
sk->sk_hash = inet_sk_ehashfn(sk);
head = inet_ehash_bucket(hashinfo, sk->sk_hash);
list = &head->chain;
- lock = &head->lock;
+ lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hashinfo, sk->sk_hash);
write_lock(lock);
}
__sk_add_node(sk, list);
@@ -253,7 +311,7 @@ static inline void inet_unhash(struct inet_hashinfo *hashinfo, struct sock *sk)
inet_listen_wlock(hashinfo);
lock = &hashinfo->lhash_lock;
} else {
- lock = &inet_ehash_bucket(hashinfo, sk->sk_hash)->lock;
+ lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hashinfo, sk->sk_hash);
write_lock_bh(lock);
}
@@ -354,9 +412,10 @@ static inline struct sock *
*/
unsigned int hash = inet_ehashfn(daddr, hnum, saddr, sport);
struct inet_ehash_bucket *head = inet_ehash_bucket(hashinfo, hash);
+ rwlock_t *lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hashinfo, hash);
prefetch(head->chain.first);
- read_lock(&head->lock);
+ read_lock(lock);
sk_for_each(sk, node, &head->chain) {
if (INET_MATCH(sk, hash, acookie, saddr, daddr, ports, dif))
goto hit; /* You sunk my battleship! */
@@ -369,7 +428,7 @@ static inline struct sock *
}
sk = NULL;
out:
- read_unlock(&head->lock);
+ read_unlock(lock);
return sk;
hit:
sock_hold(sk);
diff --git a/net/dccp/proto.c b/net/dccp/proto.c
index d849739..7a3bea9 100644
--- a/net/dccp/proto.c
+++ b/net/dccp/proto.c
@@ -1072,11 +1072,13 @@ static int __init dccp_init(void)
}
for (i = 0; i < dccp_hashinfo.ehash_size; i++) {
- rwlock_init(&dccp_hashinfo.ehash[i].lock);
INIT_HLIST_HEAD(&dccp_hashinfo.ehash[i].chain);
INIT_HLIST_HEAD(&dccp_hashinfo.ehash[i].twchain);
}
+ if (inet_ehash_locks_alloc(&dccp_hashinfo))
+ goto out_free_dccp_ehash;
+
bhash_order = ehash_order;
do {
@@ -1091,7 +1093,7 @@ static int __init dccp_init(void)
if (!dccp_hashinfo.bhash) {
DCCP_CRIT("Failed to allocate DCCP bind hash table");
- goto out_free_dccp_ehash;
+ goto out_free_dccp_locks;
}
for (i = 0; i < dccp_hashinfo.bhash_size; i++) {
@@ -1121,6 +1123,8 @@ out_free_dccp_mib:
out_free_dccp_bhash:
free_pages((unsigned long)dccp_hashinfo.bhash, bhash_order);
dccp_hashinfo.bhash = NULL;
+out_free_dccp_locks:
+ inet_ehash_locks_free(&dccp_hashinfo);
out_free_dccp_ehash:
free_pages((unsigned long)dccp_hashinfo.ehash, ehash_order);
dccp_hashinfo.ehash = NULL;
@@ -1139,6 +1143,7 @@ static void __exit dccp_fini(void)
free_pages((unsigned long)dccp_hashinfo.ehash,
get_order(dccp_hashinfo.ehash_size *
sizeof(struct inet_ehash_bucket)));
+ inet_ehash_locks_free(&dccp_hashinfo);
kmem_cache_destroy(dccp_hashinfo.bind_bucket_cachep);
dccp_ackvec_exit();
dccp_sysctl_exit();
diff --git a/net/ipv4/inet_diag.c b/net/ipv4/inet_diag.c
index dc429b6..b017073 100644
--- a/net/ipv4/inet_diag.c
+++ b/net/ipv4/inet_diag.c
@@ -747,13 +747,14 @@ skip_listen_ht:
for (i = s_i; i < hashinfo->ehash_size; i++) {
struct inet_ehash_bucket *head = &hashinfo->ehash[i];
+ rwlock_t *lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hashinfo, i);
struct sock *sk;
struct hlist_node *node;
if (i > s_i)
s_num = 0;
- read_lock_bh(&head->lock);
+ read_lock_bh(lock);
num = 0;
sk_for_each(sk, node, &head->chain) {
struct inet_sock *inet = inet_sk(sk);
@@ -769,7 +770,7 @@ skip_listen_ht:
r->id.idiag_dport)
goto next_normal;
if (inet_csk_diag_dump(sk, skb, cb) < 0) {
- read_unlock_bh(&head->lock);
+ read_unlock_bh(lock);
goto done;
}
next_normal:
@@ -791,14 +792,14 @@ next_normal:
r->id.idiag_dport)
goto next_dying;
if (inet_twsk_diag_dump(tw, skb, cb) < 0) {
- read_unlock_bh(&head->lock);
+ read_unlock_bh(lock);
goto done;
}
next_dying:
++num;
}
}
- read_unlock_bh(&head->lock);
+ read_unlock_bh(lock);
}
done:
diff --git a/net/ipv4/inet_hashtables.c b/net/ipv4/inet_hashtables.c
index 16eecc7..67704da 100644
--- a/net/ipv4/inet_hashtables.c
+++ b/net/ipv4/inet_hashtables.c
@@ -204,12 +204,13 @@ static int __inet_check_established(struct inet_timewait_death_row *death_row,
const __portpair ports = INET_COMBINED_PORTS(inet->dport, lport);
unsigned int hash = inet_ehashfn(daddr, lport, saddr, inet->dport);
struct inet_ehash_bucket *head = inet_ehash_bucket(hinfo, hash);
+ rwlock_t *lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hinfo, hash);
struct sock *sk2;
const struct hlist_node *node;
struct inet_timewait_sock *tw;
prefetch(head->chain.first);
- write_lock(&head->lock);
+ write_lock(lock);
/* Check TIME-WAIT sockets first. */
sk_for_each(sk2, node, &head->twchain) {
@@ -239,7 +240,7 @@ unique:
BUG_TRAP(sk_unhashed(sk));
__sk_add_node(sk, &head->chain);
sock_prot_inc_use(sk->sk_prot);
- write_unlock(&head->lock);
+ write_unlock(lock);
if (twp) {
*twp = tw;
@@ -255,7 +256,7 @@ unique:
return 0;
not_unique:
- write_unlock(&head->lock);
+ write_unlock(lock);
return -EADDRNOTAVAIL;
}
diff --git a/net/ipv4/inet_timewait_sock.c b/net/ipv4/inet_timewait_sock.c
index 4e189e2..a60b99e 100644
--- a/net/ipv4/inet_timewait_sock.c
+++ b/net/ipv4/inet_timewait_sock.c
@@ -20,16 +20,16 @@ static void __inet_twsk_kill(struct inet_timewait_sock *tw,
struct inet_bind_hashbucket *bhead;
struct inet_bind_bucket *tb;
/* Unlink from established hashes. */
- struct inet_ehash_bucket *ehead = inet_ehash_bucket(hashinfo, tw->tw_hash);
+ rwlock_t *lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hashinfo, tw->tw_hash);
- write_lock(&ehead->lock);
+ write_lock(lock);
if (hlist_unhashed(&tw->tw_node)) {
- write_unlock(&ehead->lock);
+ write_unlock(lock);
return;
}
__hlist_del(&tw->tw_node);
sk_node_init(&tw->tw_node);
- write_unlock(&ehead->lock);
+ write_unlock(lock);
/* Disassociate with bind bucket. */
bhead = &hashinfo->bhash[inet_bhashfn(tw->tw_num, hashinfo->bhash_size)];
@@ -59,6 +59,7 @@ void __inet_twsk_hashdance(struct inet_timewait_sock *tw, struct sock *sk,
const struct inet_sock *inet = inet_sk(sk);
const struct inet_connection_sock *icsk = inet_csk(sk);
struct inet_ehash_bucket *ehead = inet_ehash_bucket(hashinfo, sk->sk_hash);
+ rwlock_t *lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hashinfo, sk->sk_hash);
struct inet_bind_hashbucket *bhead;
/* Step 1: Put TW into bind hash. Original socket stays there too.
Note, that any socket with inet->num != 0 MUST be bound in
@@ -71,7 +72,7 @@ void __inet_twsk_hashdance(struct inet_timewait_sock *tw, struct sock *sk,
inet_twsk_add_bind_node(tw, &tw->tw_tb->owners);
spin_unlock(&bhead->lock);
- write_lock(&ehead->lock);
+ write_lock(lock);
/* Step 2: Remove SK from established hash. */
if (__sk_del_node_init(sk))
@@ -81,7 +82,7 @@ void __inet_twsk_hashdance(struct inet_timewait_sock *tw, struct sock *sk,
inet_twsk_add_node(tw, &ehead->twchain);
atomic_inc(&tw->tw_refcnt);
- write_unlock(&ehead->lock);
+ write_unlock(lock);
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(__inet_twsk_hashdance);
diff --git a/net/ipv4/tcp.c b/net/ipv4/tcp.c
index c64072b..8e65182 100644
--- a/net/ipv4/tcp.c
+++ b/net/ipv4/tcp.c
@@ -2456,11 +2456,11 @@ void __init tcp_init(void)
thash_entries ? 0 : 512 * 1024);
tcp_hashinfo.ehash_size = 1 << tcp_hashinfo.ehash_size;
for (i = 0; i < tcp_hashinfo.ehash_size; i++) {
- rwlock_init(&tcp_hashinfo.ehash[i].lock);
INIT_HLIST_HEAD(&tcp_hashinfo.ehash[i].chain);
INIT_HLIST_HEAD(&tcp_hashinfo.ehash[i].twchain);
}
-
+ if (inet_ehash_locks_alloc(&tcp_hashinfo))
+ panic("TCP: failed to alloc ehash_locks");
tcp_hashinfo.bhash =
alloc_large_system_hash("TCP bind",
sizeof(struct inet_bind_hashbucket),
diff --git a/net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c b/net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c
index eec02b2..cd82c0e 100644
--- a/net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c
+++ b/net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c
@@ -2049,8 +2049,9 @@ static void *established_get_first(struct seq_file *seq)
struct sock *sk;
struct hlist_node *node;
struct inet_timewait_sock *tw;
+ rwlock_t *lock = inet_ehash_lockp(&tcp_hashinfo, st->bucket);
- read_lock_bh(&tcp_hashinfo.ehash[st->bucket].lock);
+ read_lock_bh(lock);
sk_for_each(sk, node, &tcp_hashinfo.ehash[st->bucket].chain) {
if (sk->sk_family != st->family) {
continue;
@@ -2067,7 +2068,7 @@ static void *established_get_first(struct seq_file *seq)
rc = tw;
goto out;
}
- read_unlock_bh(&tcp_hashinfo.ehash[st->bucket].lock);
+ read_unlock_bh(lock);
st->state = TCP_SEQ_STATE_ESTABLISHED;
}
out:
@@ -2094,11 +2095,11 @@ get_tw:
cur = tw;
goto out;
}
- read_unlock_bh(&tcp_hashinfo.ehash[st->bucket].lock);
+ read_unlock_bh(inet_ehash_lockp(&tcp_hashinfo, st->bucket));
st->state = TCP_SEQ_STATE_ESTABLISHED;
if (++st->bucket < tcp_hashinfo.ehash_size) {
- read_lock_bh(&tcp_hashinfo.ehash[st->bucket].lock);
+ read_lock_bh(inet_ehash_lockp(&tcp_hashinfo, st->bucket));
sk = sk_head(&tcp_hashinfo.ehash[st->bucket].chain);
} else {
cur = NULL;
@@ -2206,7 +2207,7 @@ static void tcp_seq_stop(struct seq_file *seq, void *v)
case TCP_SEQ_STATE_TIME_WAIT:
case TCP_SEQ_STATE_ESTABLISHED:
if (v)
- read_unlock_bh(&tcp_hashinfo.ehash[st->bucket].lock);
+ read_unlock_bh(inet_ehash_lockp(&tcp_hashinfo, st->bucket));
break;
}
}
diff --git a/net/ipv6/inet6_hashtables.c b/net/ipv6/inet6_hashtables.c
index d6f1026..adc73ad 100644
--- a/net/ipv6/inet6_hashtables.c
+++ b/net/ipv6/inet6_hashtables.c
@@ -37,9 +37,8 @@ void __inet6_hash(struct inet_hashinfo *hashinfo,
} else {
unsigned int hash;
sk->sk_hash = hash = inet6_sk_ehashfn(sk);
- hash &= (hashinfo->ehash_size - 1);
- list = &hashinfo->ehash[hash].chain;
- lock = &hashinfo->ehash[hash].lock;
+ list = &inet_ehash_bucket(hashinfo, hash)->chain;
+ lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hashinfo, hash);
write_lock(lock);
}
@@ -70,9 +69,10 @@ struct sock *__inet6_lookup_established(struct inet_hashinfo *hashinfo,
*/
unsigned int hash = inet6_ehashfn(daddr, hnum, saddr, sport);
struct inet_ehash_bucket *head = inet_ehash_bucket(hashinfo, hash);
+ rwlock_t *lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hashinfo, hash);
prefetch(head->chain.first);
- read_lock(&head->lock);
+ read_lock(lock);
sk_for_each(sk, node, &head->chain) {
/* For IPV6 do the cheaper port and family tests first. */
if (INET6_MATCH(sk, hash, saddr, daddr, ports, dif))
@@ -92,12 +92,12 @@ struct sock *__inet6_lookup_established(struct inet_hashinfo *hashinfo,
goto hit;
}
}
- read_unlock(&head->lock);
+ read_unlock(lock);
return NULL;
hit:
sock_hold(sk);
- read_unlock(&head->lock);
+ read_unlock(lock);
return sk;
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL(__inet6_lookup_established);
@@ -175,12 +175,13 @@ static int __inet6_check_established(struct inet_timewait_death_row *death_row,
const unsigned int hash = inet6_ehashfn(daddr, lport, saddr,
inet->dport);
struct inet_ehash_bucket *head = inet_ehash_bucket(hinfo, hash);
+ rwlock_t *lock = inet_ehash_lockp(hinfo, hash);
struct sock *sk2;
const struct hlist_node *node;
struct inet_timewait_sock *tw;
prefetch(head->chain.first);
- write_lock(&head->lock);
+ write_lock(lock);
/* Check TIME-WAIT sockets first. */
sk_for_each(sk2, node, &head->twchain) {
@@ -216,7 +217,7 @@ unique:
__sk_add_node(sk, &head->chain);
sk->sk_hash = hash;
sock_prot_inc_use(sk->sk_prot);
- write_unlock(&head->lock);
+ write_unlock(lock);
if (twp != NULL) {
*twp = tw;
@@ -231,7 +232,7 @@ unique:
return 0;
not_unique:
- write_unlock(&head->lock);
+ write_unlock(lock);
return -EADDRNOTAVAIL;
}
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-04 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-01 10:16 [PATCH] INET : removes per bucket rwlock in tcp/dccp ehash table Eric Dumazet
2007-11-01 11:03 ` David Miller
2007-11-01 11:20 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-11-01 11:15 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-11-01 16:06 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-01 18:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-01 16:14 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-01 17:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-01 18:48 ` Rick Jones
2007-11-01 19:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-01 19:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-01 21:52 ` David Miller
2007-11-01 21:46 ` David Miller
2007-11-03 23:18 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-03 23:23 ` David Miller
2007-11-04 0:54 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-04 11:31 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2007-11-04 12:26 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-04 13:05 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-04 21:56 ` David Miller
2007-11-04 23:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-05 4:24 ` David Miller
2007-11-05 4:35 ` David Miller
2007-11-04 17:58 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-04 18:15 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-04 21:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-04 23:08 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-07 10:41 ` David Miller
2007-11-07 12:13 ` Jarek Poplawski
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