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From: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@sw.ru>
To: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, xemul@openvz.org,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, containers@lists.osdl.org,
	yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, Benjamin Thery <benjamin.thery@bull.net>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/1][NETNS][IPV6] protect addrconf from loopback registration
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:49:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <473883FF.5010505@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47387B31.20805@fr.ibm.com>

>> why should we care on down? we are destroying the device. It should
>> gone. All references to it should also gone. So, we should perform the
>> cleaning and remove all IPv6 addresses, so notifier should also work.
> 
> We need to take care of netdev down, someone can put the loopback down
> if he wants.
> 
>> The code relies on the "persistent" loopback and this is a _bad_ thing.
>> This is longstanding bug in the code, that the dst_entry should have a
>> valid reference to a device. This is the only purpose for a loopback
>> persistence. Though, at the namespace death no such entries must be and
>> this will be checked during unregister process. This patch definitely
>> breaks this assumption :(
>>
>> Namespaces are good to catch leakage using standard codepaths, so they
>> should be preserved as much as possible. So, _all_ normal down code
>> should be called for a loopback device in other than init_net context.
> 
> I agree with you, this is a bug in ipv6 and the loopback; when playing
> with ipv6 we found that the loopback is still referenced 9 times when
> the system is shutdown.

Pff...  I can't guess right now where the error can be :( We have
correct behavior of loopback even for IPv6 within OpenVZ. On down the
count is 0 and device is destroyed correctly without these kludges. So,
something is definitely wrong.

> The purpose of this patch is to protect the __actual__ code from the new
> loopback behavior. We are looking at a more generic approach with the
> namespace for ipv6, as you mentioned, namespaces are good for network
> leakage detection as we create several instances of the network stack.

The only kludge required is already in place. addrconf_ifdown has a
protection for init_net.
        if (dev == init_net.loopback_dev && how == 1)
                how = 0;
Other places should be untouched.

Unregister for a loopback in !init_net is a _valid_ operation and should
be clean, i.e. without kludges in the path. This is the only way to
check the ref-counting.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-12 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20071112151953.052335971@mai.toulouse-stg.fr.ibm.com>
2007-11-12 15:19 ` [patch 1/1][NETNS][IPV6] protect addrconf from loopback registration Daniel Lezcano
2007-11-12 16:05   ` Denis V. Lunev
2007-11-12 16:11     ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-11-12 16:49       ` Denis V. Lunev [this message]
2007-11-12 16:59         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-12 22:24         ` David Miller
2007-11-13 12:59           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <473879C3.5020301-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-12 16:51       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-12 17:01         ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-11-12 19:50           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-13  1:52             ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2007-11-13 13:11               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-13 10:55             ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-11-12 21:00           ` Denis V. Lunev
2007-11-12 16:40   ` Eric W. Biederman

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