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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NET : rt_check_expire() can take a long time, add a cond_resched()
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:25:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <473C0297.5090004@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73r6isc6ev.fsf@bingen.suse.de>

Andi Kleen a écrit :
> Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> writes:
>> Using a "if (need_resched())" test before calling "cond_resched();" is
>> necessary to avoid spending too much time doing the resched check.
> 
> The only difference between cond_resched() and if (need_resched())
> cond_resched() is one function call less and one might_sleep less. If
> the might_sleep or the function call are really problems (did you
> measure it? -- i doubt it somewhat) then it would be better to fix the
> generic code to either inline that or supply a __cond_resched()
> without might_sleep.

Please note that :

if (need_resched())
     cond_resched();

will re-test need_resched() once cond_resched() is called.

So it may sound unnecessary but in the rt_check_expire() case, with a loop 
potentially doing XXX.XXX iterations, being able to bypass the function call 
is a clear win (in my bench case, 25 ms instead of 88 ms). Impact on I-cache 
is irrelevant here as this rt_check_expires() runs once every 60 sec.

I think the actual cond_resched() is fine for other uses in the kernel, that 
are not used in a loop : In the general case, kernel text size should be as 
small as possible to reduce I-cache pressure, so a function call is better 
than an inline.

> 
> A cheaper change might have been to just limit the number of buckets
> scanned.
> 

Well, not in some particular cases, when there are 3 millions of routes for 
example in the cache. We really want to scan/free them eventually :)

An admin already has the possibility to tune 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/route/gc_interval and /proc/sys/net/ipv4/route/gc_timeout, 
so on a big cache, it will probably set gc_interval to 1 instead of 60

Next step will be to move "ip route flush cache" and rt_secret_rebuild() 
handling from softirq to process context too, since this still can kill a machine.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-15  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-14 21:34 [PATCH] NET : rt_check_expire() can take a long time, add a cond_resched() Eric Dumazet
2007-11-15  0:13 ` David Miller
2007-11-15  7:30 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-15  7:37   ` Herbert Xu
2007-11-15  8:25   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2007-11-15  8:57     ` David Miller
2007-11-17 13:08     ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-17 16:23       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-11-17 21:46         ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-18  0:27           ` David Miller
2007-11-15  8:52   ` David Miller

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