From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@free.fr>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
containers@lists.osdl.org, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: namespace support requires network modules to say "GPL"
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:57:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <475451B1.1030006@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47544896.7070101@candelatech.com>
Ben Greear wrote:
> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> writes:
>>
>>
>>> Ben Greear wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a binary module that uses dev_get_by_name...it's sort of a
>>>> bridge-like
>>>> thing and
>>>> needs user-space to tell it which device to listen for packets on...
>>>>
>>>> This code doesn't need or care about name-spaces, so I don't see how
>>>> it could
>>>> really
>>>> be infringing on the author's code (any worse than loading a binary
>>>> driver
>>>> into the kernel
>>>> ever does).
>>>>
>>
>> Regardless of infringement it is incompatible with a complete network
>> namespace implementation. Further it sounds like the module you are
>> describing defines a kernel ABI without being merged and hopes that
>> ABI will still be supportable in the future. Honestly I think doing so
>> is horrible code maintenance policy.
>>
> I don't mind if the ABI changes, so long as I can still use something
> similar.
>
> The namespace logic is interesting to me in general, but at this point I
> can't think of a way that
> it actually helps this particular module. All I really need is a way to
> grab every frame
> from eth0 and then transmit it to eth1. I'm currently doing this by
> finding the netdevice
> and registering a raw-packet protocol (ie, like tcpdump would do). At
> least up to 2.6.23,
> this does not require any hacks to the kernel and uses only non GPL
> exported symbols.
>
> Based on my understanding of the namespace logic, if I never add any
> namespaces,
> the general network layout should look similar to how it does today, so
> I should have
> no logical problem with my module.
>
>> Once things are largely complete it makes sense to argue with out of
>> tree module authors that because they don't have network namespace
>> support in their modules, their modules are broken.
> Does this imply that every module that accesses the network code *must*
> become
> GPL simply because it must interact with namespace logic that is
> exported as GPL only symbols?
That's right, with init_net's EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL and dev_get_xx, we
enforce people to be GPL whatever they didn't asked to have the
namespaces in their code.
Eric, why can we simply change EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL to EXPORT_SYMBOL for
init_net ?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-03 18:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-01 9:06 [PATCH 0/10] sysfs network namespace support Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:12 ` [PATCH 01/10] sysfs: Make sysfs_mount static again Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:13 ` [PATCH 02/10] sysfs: Support for preventing unmounts Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:16 ` [PATCH 03/10] sysfs: sysfs_get_dentry add a sb parameter Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:18 ` [PATCH 04/10] sysfs: Implement __sysfs_get_dentry Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:23 ` [PATCH 05/10] sysfs: Rename Support multiple superblocks Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:25 ` [PATCH 06/10] sysfs: sysfs_chmod_file handle " Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:28 ` [PATCH 07/10] sysfs: Implement sysfs tagged directory support Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:30 ` [PATCH 08/10] sysfs: Implement sysfs_delete_link and sysfs_rename_link Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:33 ` [PATCH 09/10] driver core: Implement tagged directory support for device classes Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 9:35 ` [PATCH 10/10] net: Enable tagging for net_class directories in sysfs Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 13:10 ` namespace support requires network modules to say "GPL" Mark Lord
2007-12-01 13:13 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 19:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-01 19:23 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20071201192341.6750fbdb-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-01 19:38 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-01 19:45 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 20:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m13aum5g1x.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-01 20:21 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 20:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-01 22:12 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-01 23:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 23:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-12-02 1:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 23:51 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-02 1:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 20:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-01 22:13 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-03 0:02 ` David Schwartz
2007-12-03 0:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 19:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-02 0:30 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-02 2:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-02 3:34 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-02 4:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-02 19:28 ` Ben Greear
2007-12-02 20:03 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-12-02 20:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-02 21:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-12-03 1:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-03 8:33 ` Denis V. Lunev
2007-12-03 17:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-03 18:19 ` Ben Greear
2007-12-03 18:57 ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2007-12-04 15:19 ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-12-04 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 18:44 ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 19:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 19:35 ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 20:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05 6:14 ` David Miller
2007-12-05 6:01 ` David Miller
2007-12-04 17:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-04 18:57 ` Ben Greear
2007-12-04 20:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-05 6:07 ` David Miller
2007-12-03 8:24 ` Romano Giannetti
2007-12-03 15:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-03 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-12-03 18:13 ` David Miller
2007-12-02 13:51 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-02 19:56 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-21 3:07 ` [PATCH 0/10] sysfs network namespace support Greg KH
2007-12-21 13:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
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