From: John Heffner <jheffner@psc.edu>
To: SANGTAE HA <sangtae.ha@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
andi@firstfloor.org, ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi,
lachlan.andrew@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
quetchen@caltech.edu
Subject: Re: SACK scoreboard
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:23:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4785110A.4080707@psc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <649aecc70801091014u50d1be26ndf5e59e0492ce9cd@mail.gmail.com>
SANGTAE HA wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2008 9:56 AM, John Heffner <jheffner@psc.edu> wrote:
>>>> I also wonder how much of a problem this is (for now, with window sizes
>>>> of order 10000 packets. My understanding is that the biggest problems
>>>> arise from O(N^2) time for recovery because every ack was expensive.
>>>> Have current tests shown the final ack to be a major source of problems?
>>> Yes, several people have reported this.
>> I may have missed some of this. Does anyone have a link to some recent
>> data?
>
> I had some testing on this a month ago.
> A small set of recent results with linux 2.6.23.9 are at
> http://netsrv.csc.ncsu.edu/net-2.6.23.9/sack_efficiency
> One of serious cases with a large number of packet losses (initial
> loss is around 8000 packets) is at
> http://netsrv.csc.ncsu.edu/net-2.6.23.9/sack_efficiency/600--TCP-TCP-NONE--400-3-1.0--1000-120-0-0-1-1-5-500--1.0-0.5-133000-73-3000000-0.93-150--3/
>
> Also, there is a comparison among three Linux kernels (2.6.13,
> 2.6.18-rc4, 2.6.20.3) at
> http://netsrv.csc.ncsu.edu/wiki/index.php/Efficiency_of_SACK_processing
If I'm reading this right, all these tests occur with large amounts of
loss and tons of sack processing. What would be most pertinent to this
discussion would be a test with a large window, with delayed ack and
sack disabled, and a single loss repaired by fast retransmit. This
would isolate the "single big ack" processing from other factors such as
doubling the ack rate and sack processing.
I could probably set up such a test, but I don't want to duplicate
effort if someone else already has done something similar.
Thanks,
-John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-09 18:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <aa7d2c6d0711261023m3d2dd850o76a8f44aef022f39@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <001001c83063$9adbc9d0$d5897e82@csp.uiuc.edu>
2007-11-28 23:47 ` [PATCH] tcp-illinois: incorrect beta usage Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-29 0:25 ` Lachlan Andrew
2007-11-29 0:43 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-29 5:26 ` Shao Liu
2007-12-03 22:52 ` [RFC] TCP illinois max rtt aging Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-03 23:06 ` Lachlan Andrew
2007-12-03 23:59 ` Shao Liu
2007-12-04 0:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-04 1:23 ` Lachlan Andrew
2007-12-04 8:37 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-12-07 3:27 ` Lachlan Andrew
2007-12-07 11:05 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-12-07 12:41 ` David Miller
2007-12-07 13:05 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-12-07 18:27 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-12-08 1:32 ` David Miller
2007-12-11 11:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-2.6.25 uncompilable] [TCP]: Avoid breaking GSOed skbs when SACKed one-by-one (Was: Re: [RFC] TCP illinois max rtt aging) Ilpo Järvinen
2007-12-11 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH net-2.6.25 uncompilable] [TCP]: Avoid breaking GSOed skbs when SACKed one-by-one David Miller
2007-12-12 0:14 ` Lachlan Andrew
2007-12-12 15:11 ` David Miller
2007-12-12 23:35 ` Lachlan Andrew
2007-12-12 23:38 ` David Miller
2007-12-13 0:00 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-15 9:51 ` SACK scoreboard (Was: Re: [RFC PATCH net-2.6.25 uncompilable] [TCP]: Avoid breaking GSOed skbs when SACKed one-by-one) Ilpo Järvinen
2008-01-08 7:36 ` SACK scoreboard David Miller
2008-01-08 12:12 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-01-09 7:58 ` David Miller
2008-01-08 16:51 ` John Heffner
2008-01-08 22:44 ` David Miller
2008-01-09 1:34 ` Lachlan Andrew
2008-01-09 6:35 ` David Miller
2008-01-09 2:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-09 4:27 ` John Heffner
2008-01-09 6:41 ` David Miller
2008-01-09 14:56 ` John Heffner
2008-01-09 18:14 ` SANGTAE HA
2008-01-09 18:23 ` John Heffner [this message]
2008-01-09 12:55 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-01-09 6:39 ` David Miller
2008-01-09 7:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-09 7:16 ` David Miller
2008-01-09 9:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-01-09 14:02 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-29 14:12 ` [PATCH] tcp-illinois: incorrect beta usage Herbert Xu
2008-01-09 6:04 SACK scoreboard linux
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