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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Disable TSO for non standard qdiscs
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:14:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47A21E1A.6000006@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080131192521.GG4671@one.firstfloor.org>

Andi Kleen wrote:
>>So, at what timescale do people using these qdiscs expect things to 
>>appear "smooth?"  64KB of data at GbE speeds is something just north of 
>>half a millisecond unless I've botched my units somewhere.
> 
> 
> One typical use case for TBF is you talking to a DSL bridge that 
> is connected using a GBit Ethernet switch. For these DSL connections it gives
> much better behaviour to shape the traffic to slightly below
> your external link speed so that you can e.g. prioritize packets properly.

Sounds like the functionality needs to be in the DSL bridge :) (or the 
"router" in the same case) Particularly since it might be getting used 
by more than one host on the GbE switch.

> But the actual external link speed is much lower than GbE.
> A lot of GbE NICs enable TSO by default.

bluesky typing...

then the qdisc could/should place a cap on the size of a 'TSO' based on 
the bitrate (and perhaps input as to how much time any one "burst" of 
data should be allowed to consume on the network) and pass that up the 
stack?  right now you seem to be proposing what is effectively a cap of 
1 MSS.

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-31 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-31 12:46 [PATCH] Disable TSO for non standard qdiscs Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 17:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-01-31 18:33   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:01     ` Patrick McHardy
2008-01-31 18:37       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:08         ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-01-31 18:11           ` Patrick McHardy
2008-01-31 18:53           ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:21             ` Patrick McHardy
2008-01-31 19:01               ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:47                 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-01-31 19:34                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 19:39                     ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-01-31 23:10                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-01-31 23:42                         ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-01  4:26                           ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-01  4:35                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01  4:36                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 20:33                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-31 23:04                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-01  7:42                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-01  9:28                           ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-01 21:47                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-01  5:01                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01  6:35                     ` Glen Turner
2008-02-01  6:46                       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-01  7:46                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01  7:25                         ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-01  9:37                           ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-01  9:56                             ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-01 12:06                               ` jamal
2008-02-01 19:02                                 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-01 22:56                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-02  1:51                                   ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-02-02  5:20                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01 14:34                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-01 17:24                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-01-31 18:48                 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-02 22:57             ` Herbert Xu
2008-02-03  9:35               ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:26 ` Rick Jones
2008-01-31 19:03   ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 18:35     ` Rick Jones
2008-01-31 19:25       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-31 19:14         ` Rick Jones [this message]
2008-02-01  1:04           ` Andy Furniss
2008-02-01  4:31           ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-02 22:59             ` Herbert Xu
2008-02-01 21:58     ` Rick Jones
2008-02-02  4:10       ` Andi Kleen

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