From: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH] loopback: calls netif_receive_skb() instead of netif_rx()
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:19:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BEA1AA.3000500@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47BE06F7.5080305@cosmosbay.com>
Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Daniel Lezcano a écrit :
>> Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>> Hi David
>>>
>>> This is an RFC, based on net-2.6 for convenience only.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> [RFC,PATCH] loopback: calls netif_receive_skb() instead of netif_rx()
>>>
>>> Loopback transmit function loopback_xmit() actually calls netif_rx()
>>> to queue
>>> a skb to the softnet queue, and arms a softirq so that this skb can
>>> be handled later.
>>>
>>> This has a cost on SMP, because we need to hold a reference on the
>>> device, and free this
>>> reference when softirq dequeues packet.
>>>
>>> Following patch directly calls netif_receive_skb() and avoids lot of
>>> atomic operations.
>>> (atomic_inc(&dev->refcnt), set_and_set_bit(NAPI_STATE_SCHED,
>>> &n->state), ...
>>> atomic_dec(&dev->refcnt)...), cache line ping-pongs on device
>>> refcnt, but also softirq overhead.
>>>
>>> This gives a nice boost on tbench for example (5 % on my machine)
>>
>> I understand this is interesting for the loopback when there is no
>> multiple instances of it and it can't be unregistered. But now with
>> the network namespaces, we can have multiple instances of the loopback
>> and it can to be unregistered. Shouldn't we still use netif_rx ?
>> Perhaps we can do something like:
>>
>> if (dev->nd_net == &init_net)
>> netif_receive_skb(skb);
>> else
>> netif_rx(skb);
>
> or
>
> #ifdef CONFIG_NET_NS
> if (dev->nd_net != &init_net)
> netif_rx(skb);
> else
> #endif
> netif_receive_skb(skb);
>
>>
>> Or we create:
>> init_loopback_xmit() calling netif_receive_skb(skb);
>> and setup this function when creating the loopback for init_net,
>> otherwise we setup the usual loopback_xmit.
>>
>> We are still safe for multiple network namespaces and we have the
>> improvement for init_net loopback.
>>
>
> I dont understand how my patch could degrade loopbackdev unregister
> logic. It should only help it, by avoiding a queue of 'pending packets'
> per cpu.
>
> When we want to unregister a network device, stack makes sure that no
> more calls to dev->hard_start_xmit() can occur.
>
> If no more loopback_xmit() calls are done on this device, it doesnt
> matter if it internally uses netif_rx() or netif_receive_skb(skb)
>
> loopback device has no queue, its really unfortunate to use the
> 'softirq' internal queue.
Fair enough :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-22 10:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-21 18:51 [RFC,PATCH] loopback: calls netif_receive_skb() instead of netif_rx() Eric Dumazet
2008-02-21 20:14 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-02-21 23:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-02-22 10:19 ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2008-02-27 2:21 ` David Miller
2008-02-27 7:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-02-27 7:23 ` David Miller
2008-02-27 7:34 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-03-01 10:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-04 4:55 ` David Miller
2008-03-04 5:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-04 6:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-23 10:29 ` David Miller
2008-03-23 18:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-23 19:15 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-29 1:36 ` David Miller
2008-03-29 8:18 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-29 23:54 ` David Miller
2008-03-31 6:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-31 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-31 10:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-31 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-01 9:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-04-03 14:06 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-03 16:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-31 10:08 ` David Miller
2008-03-31 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-31 11:02 ` David Miller
2008-03-31 11:36 ` poor network loopback performance and scalability (was: Re: [RFC,PATCH] loopback: calls netif_receive_skb() instead of netif_rx()) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-21 3:24 ` Herbert Xu
2008-04-21 3:38 ` poor network loopback performance and scalability David Miller
2008-04-21 8:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-21 8:16 ` David Miller
2008-04-21 10:19 ` Herbert Xu
2008-04-21 10:22 ` David Miller
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