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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch 3/3] use SLAB_ALIGN_SMP
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:15:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47CC080E.9010203@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84144f020803030553s35a40dd8yf88585ccd5a599fd@mail.gmail.com>

Pekka Enberg a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
>   
>>  > Maybe we need to use three flags to separate the meanings ?
>>  >
>>  > SLAB_HINT_SMP_ALIGN
>>  > SLAB_HINT_HWCACHE_ALIGN
>>  > SLAB_HWCACHE_ALIGN /* strong requirement that two objects dont share a
>>  > cache line */
>>
>>  Possibly, but I'm beginning to prefer that strong requirements should
>>  request the explicit alignment (they can even use cache_line_size() after
>>  Pekka's patch to make it generic). I don't like how the name implies
>>  that you get a guarantee, however I guess in practice people are using it
>>  more as a hint (or because they vaguely hope it makes their code run
>>  faster :))
>>     
>
> At least historically SLAB_HWCACHE_ALIGN has been just a hint,
> although slab tries very hard to satisfy it (see the comments in
> mm/slab.c). Why do we need stronger guarantees than that, btw?
>
>   
This reminds me a previous attempt of removing SLAB_HWCACHE_ALIGN

http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/christoph/patch-archive/2007/2.6.21-rc6/remove_hwcache_align

At that time Christoph didnt took into account the CONFIG_SMP thing 
(false sharing avoidance), but also that L1_CACHE_SIZE is a compile 
constant, that can differs with cache_line_size()





  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-03 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-03  9:34 [rfc][patch 1/3] slub: fix small HWCACHE_ALIGN alignment Nick Piggin
2008-03-03  9:35 ` [rfc][patch 2/3] slab: introduce SMP alignment Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 19:06   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 20:03     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 20:09       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 20:12         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 20:17           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 20:24             ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 20:41               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-03 21:23                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 21:31               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-05  0:16                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  4:37                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  5:11                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  5:19                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  5:26                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  5:37                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-11  7:13                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-12  6:21                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03  9:36 ` [rfc][patch 3/3] use SLAB_ALIGN_SMP Nick Piggin
2008-03-03  9:53   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-03 12:41     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 13:00       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-03 13:46         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 13:53           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-03 14:15             ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2008-03-03 19:10               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 19:09             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 20:10               ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 20:12                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 20:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 21:14                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03  9:44 ` [rfc][patch 1/3] slub: fix small HWCACHE_ALIGN alignment Pekka Enberg
2008-03-03 12:28   ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 19:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 20:06   ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 20:10     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 20:17       ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 21:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 21:30           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-03 21:32             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 21:35               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-05  0:28                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-05 20:56                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-06  2:49                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-06 22:53                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  2:04                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  2:20                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  2:25                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  2:27                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  2:33                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  2:33                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  5:23                                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-05  0:08               ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-05  0:06           ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-05  0:10             ` David Miller
2008-03-05 21:06               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-06  2:57                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-06 22:56                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  2:23                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  2:26                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  2:32                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  2:54                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  3:10                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  3:18                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  3:22                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-07  3:58                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07  4:05                                     ` Nick Piggin

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