From: Max Krasnyanskiy <maxk@qualcomm.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] partial checksum and GSO support for tun/tap.
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:08:58 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47CDAC5A.1070103@qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803041847.45500.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 March 2008 16:08:00 Max Krasnyansky wrote:
>>> The problem with this approach is that for what I'm doing, the packets
>>> aren't nicely arranged somewhere; they're in random process memory.
>> That's fine. RX/TX descriptors would not contain the data itself. They'd
>> contain pointers to actual packets (ie just like the NIC takes physical
>> memory address and DMAs data in/out).
>> The allows for sending/receiving packets without syscalls and fits nicely
>> with the async schemes like GSO.
>
> Yes, yes it does. That would be a very nice extension (it's orthogonal to
> this patch though, so should we get Dave to take these for 2.6.25?).
It's orthogonal in general I agree. The only concern is whether we should keep
extending existing driver API (ie adding more flags like TUN_NO_PI, etc) or go
straight to the new/better ring based API. I do not have a strong preference
one way or the other. So I guess I'm saying I'd be ok with Dave taking them
for 2.6.25, but that API may be obsolete when the ring based thing comes out.
> And as it happens, virtio already has such a structure: virtio_ring. See
> linux/virtio_ring.h.
I'll take a look.
>>> The structure is for virtio, I'm just borrowing it for tap because it's
>>> already there. We could rename it and move it out to its own header, but
>>> if so we should do that before 2.6.25 is released.
>> If we do the whole enchilada with the RX/TX rings then we probably do not
>> even need it. I'm thinking that RX/TX descriptor would include everything
>> you need for the GSO and stuff.
>> I meant do not need it for the TUN/TAP driver that is. Is it used anywhere
>> else ?
>
> Just for the linux virtio drivers. Reusing it for tun/tap was an
> afterthought. It just meant I could pass the same structure straight thru,
> though, which is nice.
>
> The userspace->kernel problem is very similar to the guest->host problem, so
> it doesn't surprise me if we end up with very similar (identical?)
> interfaces.
>
> Take a look at virtio_ring.h, virtio_ring.c and Documentation/lguest/lguest.c
> to see how we use it...
Thanx for the pointers.
Max
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-04 20:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-23 14:07 [PATCH 1/3] Cleanup and simplify virtnet header Rusty Russell
2008-01-23 14:10 ` [PATCH 2/3] partial checksum and GSO support for tun/tap Rusty Russell
2008-01-23 14:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] Interface to query tun/tap features Rusty Russell
2008-02-08 5:07 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-02-08 5:39 ` [PATCH 2/3] partial checksum and GSO support for tun/tap Max Krasnyansky
2008-03-04 1:02 ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-04 5:08 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-03-04 7:47 ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-04 20:08 ` Max Krasnyanskiy [this message]
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