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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: hadi@cyberus.ca
Cc: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	shemminger@vyatta.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-2.6.26] netlink: make socket filters work on netlink
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:45:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47F38002.70005@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1207139106.4451.155.camel@localhost>

jamal wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-02-04 at 14:09 +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> 
>> Yes, but it was the use of current->pid that was wrong.
> 
> There are many many apps out there which still use ioctls - hence the
> ambiguity of "is it the kernel that generated the command that caused
> the event or was it merely a proxy for some app". 
> You need to resolve that. 

Mhh .. we could use a magic nlmsg_pid value (just like zero)
to indicate it was done on behalf of a process using ioctls or
some other, non-netlink means. I'm wondering how useful this
(or any other "whodunit" identifier) would be for filtering
though, I think you're usually more interested in certain
objects than certain processes, like all routes to 192.168.0.0/16,
no matter who changes them.

>> If one of those calls are in a path invoked through netlink
>> it should set nlmsg_pid.
> 
> Nod - I think thats mostly taken care of; havent looked lately. I know
> Alexey didnt object to any patches i submitted that did change how
> nlmsg_pid was set on events to match this thought and I cant think of a
> reason it would violate any netlink ettiquette. 
> 
> Note, I find the whoddunit field (not the pid) to be also useful for
> aesthetics and debugging other than for the non-ambiguity in the
> filtering.

Unfortunately we can't add a new field to the existing headers
without breaking things, so anything new would likely be subsystem
specific.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-02 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-21 18:05 [PATCH net-2.6.26] netlink: make socket filters work on netlink Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-21 22:47 ` David Miller
2008-03-26 20:19 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-03-31 19:33   ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-31 19:40     ` Patrick McHardy
2008-03-31 19:46       ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-31 20:07       ` David Miller
2008-03-31 20:15         ` Patrick McHardy
2008-03-31 21:49           ` jamal
2008-04-01 11:52             ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-01 14:04               ` jamal
2008-04-02 10:00                 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-02 11:21                   ` Thomas Graf
2008-04-02 12:01                     ` jamal
2008-04-02 12:09                       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-02 12:25                         ` jamal
2008-04-02 12:45                           ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2008-04-02 13:10                             ` jamal
2008-04-02 14:28                               ` Thomas Graf
2008-04-02 18:12                                 ` jamal
2008-04-02 12:03                     ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-02 14:09                       ` Thomas Graf
2008-04-02 11:42                   ` jamal
2008-04-02 12:07                     ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-02 14:05                       ` Thomas Graf

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