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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	NetDev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: GFP_ATOMIC page allocation failures.
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:20:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47F51FD3.604@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804031657.43895.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Thursday 03 April 2008 05:18, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>> Turning to Nick's comment,
>>
>>> It's still actually nice to know how often it is happening even for
>>> these known good sites because too much can indicate a problem and
>>> that you could actually bring performance up by tuning some things.
>> then create a counter or acculuation buffer somewhere.
>>
>> We don't need spew every time there is memory pressure of this magnitude.
> 
> Not a complete solution. Counter would be nice, but you need backtraces
> and want a way to more proactively warn the user/tester/developer.
> 
> I agree that I don't exactly like adding nowarns around, and I don't think
> places like driver writers should have to know about this stuff.
> 
> 
>> IMO there are much better ways than printk(), to inform tasks, and
>> humans, of allocation failures.
> 
> I think with a tweaked warning message, a ratelimited printk is OK.

No objections here, and agreed on all points.

Though IMO adding __GFP_NOWARN to netdev_alloc_skb() falls into that 
category (should not generally be in a driver or driver API).

	Jeff





  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-03 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080401235609.GA6947@codemonkey.org.uk>
     [not found] ` <200804021228.16875.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
     [not found] ` <47F32789.2070703@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <20080402005646.f8df1c1b.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2008-04-02  8:17     ` GFP_ATOMIC page allocation failures KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-02  8:24       ` David Miller
2008-04-02  8:43         ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-02 10:00         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-02 10:56           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-02 18:44             ` David Miller
2008-04-02 20:12               ` Michael Chan
2008-04-02 20:53                 ` David Miller
2008-04-02 11:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-02 18:45           ` David Miller
2008-04-02 19:06             ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]     ` <200804022012.58760.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
2008-04-02 15:54       ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-03  5:22         ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-03  5:32           ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-03  8:59             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-26 21:06               ` Dave Jones
2008-06-26 22:26                 ` Chris Snook
2008-06-27 10:01                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-02 17:21     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-02 17:33       ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-02 18:18         ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-02 18:37           ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-03  5:57           ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-03 18:20             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
     [not found] <adYyJ-20N-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <aef6w-6rx-45@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <aefJ9-7KR-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <aeqF6-45P-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-04  9:52       ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-04 10:59         ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-04 11:35           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-05  1:06             ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-06 12:12               ` Bodo Eggert

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