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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:52:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47FD64B5.1050309@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080408195123.GA28148@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 08:39:21PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>> so the pure presence of the e1000e module breaks the e1000 driver. That 
>>> is a regression and a bug that should be fixed.
>> I think you've found the wrong problem ... it looks deliberate to me 
>> that enabling e1000e disables e1000 from claiming the PCI IDs (see the 
>> PCIE() macro right before the e1000_pci_tbl in 
>> drivers/net/e1000/e1000_main.c).
>>
>> The question is why e1000e isn't claiming the device ...
> 
> because i have e1000 built-in and dont load the e1000e module at all. 
> That worked before and doesnt work now.
> 
> the solution is rather straightforward: if E1000 is built-in then E1000E 
> should be built-in as well or disabled (i.e. it should not be possible 
> to build it as a module in that case) - because the PCI ID stealing 
> trick now connects the two drivers unconditionally. [ If e1000 is a 
> module then e1000e can be a module (or disabled) - this would be the 
> most common configuration. ]
> 
And this would seem to break the most common means of testing a new 
driver for existing (and working!) hardware, which is to build both 
drivers as modules, install the new one, and if it appears to have 
problems either remove and insert the old driver by hand, or boot 
forcing the old driver.

I can't be the only person who tests kernels on machines I wouldn't use 
to build a kernel, and uses modprobe.conf to test new driver functionality.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-10  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-04 21:11 [ANNOUNCE] e1000 to e1000e migration of PCI Express devices Kok, Auke
2008-04-04 21:31 ` Dave Hansen
2008-04-04 21:49   ` [E1000-devel] " Kok, Auke
2008-04-04 21:52   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-08  8:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 14:21   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-08 15:08     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-08 14:56   ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-08 16:18   ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-08 18:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 18:39     ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 (was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] e1000 to e1000e migration of PCI Express devices) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 19:32       ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-08 19:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 19:56           ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 Jeff Garzik
2008-04-08 20:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 20:19               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-08 20:33                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 20:47                   ` [E1000-devel] " Kok, Auke
2008-04-08 20:56                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 19:38                     ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix (was: Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-09 19:50                       ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 20:04                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-09 20:12                       ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-09 20:53                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-10 18:29                         ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-10 19:27                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-10 21:23                             ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-10 21:44                               ` Randy Dunlap
2008-04-10 21:52                                 ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-11  7:54                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-11  0:46                               ` Philip Craig
2008-04-11 11:26                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 11:36                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-11 12:16                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 16:22                                     ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-11 16:45                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-11 17:26                                         ` Kok, Auke
2008-04-11 17:34                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 17:53                                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-11 18:51                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 19:01                                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-11 19:25                                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-11 19:38                                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-11 20:21                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 20:22                                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-11 20:29                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 21:01                                               ` Dan Noe
2008-04-11 22:06                                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-04-11 22:21                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-11 23:05                                               ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-04-11 23:00                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-11 23:15                                               ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-04-11 23:43                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-11 23:58                                                 ` david
2008-04-12 13:07                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-13 21:13                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-13 21:34                                                   ` Ondrej Zary
2008-06-09 19:24                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 17:10                                       ` Martin Mares
2008-04-09 20:49                       ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix (was: Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000) Frans Pop
2008-04-09 23:59                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-10  1:40                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-10  9:57                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-10 14:30                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-10 17:55                                 ` Grant Grundler
2008-04-10 18:04                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-10 18:26                                     ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix Kok, Auke
2008-04-10 21:20                                       ` Chris Friesen
2008-04-10 19:27                                   ` [patch] e1000=y && e1000e=m regression fix (was: Re: [regression] e1000e broke e1000) Linus Torvalds
2008-04-10 21:35                                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-08 20:31               ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 Kok, Auke
2008-04-09 19:12                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-09 19:33                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-11 11:30                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 15:40                       ` Chris Friesen
2008-04-11 19:29                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-10  0:52           ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2008-04-11  8:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 19:43       ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 (was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] e1000 toe1000e migration of PCI Express devices) Brandeburg, Jesse
2008-04-08 19:59         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 20:04           ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-08 20:12             ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 Dan Noe
2008-04-08 20:20               ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-08 20:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-08 20:36                   ` Martin Mares
2008-04-08 20:39                 ` Dan Noe
2008-04-08 20:13             ` showing which hardware is unclaimed Rick Jones
2008-04-08 20:35               ` Martin Mares
2008-04-08 20:17             ` [regression] e1000e broke e1000 (was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] e1000 toe1000e migration of PCI Express devices) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-09 19:08   ` [ANNOUNCE] e1000 to e1000e migration of PCI Express devices Ingo Molnar
2008-04-09 19:38     ` Andi Kleen

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