From: Paul Fulghum <paulkf@microgate.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: khc@pm.waw.pl, jchapman@katalix.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, jeff@garzik.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:52:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <480E7A59.6050802@microgate.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080422.150259.205494753.davem@davemloft.net>
David Miller wrote:
> Users say this to strong-hand developers, it's not something you
> should ever take very seriously. And even if Linux may simply not be
> for them, well that's fine too, and implementing something as obscure
> as HDLC PPP one way or the other is not going to change that.
Certainly not a big deal for Linux, but more
significant for vendors of HDLC hardware :-)
David Miller wrote:
> I would have been more than happy if syncppp was retained and fixed
> properly, instead of being abandoned and duplicated in one fell swoop.
I'd be happy with that also. I was responding to the
suggestion of merging generic HDLC PPP with the pppd implementation.
It's been suggested before, but doing so looks messy.
James Chapman wrote:
> Paul Fulghum wrote:
>> Many customers who choose to use generic HDLC PPP are *dead*
>> set against the added complexity and (user space)
>> components of using pppd even though it has more features.
>
> Are there technical reasons or is the complexity just a lack of
> familiarity?
From what I can tell it was an existing investment in scripts,
training, tools, naming conventions, etc. Even when
provided with new tools and scripts that do the same thing (as
far as I could tell) the response was suprisingly vehement against
change.
--
Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-22 23:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-12 18:21 WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-12 18:30 ` [PATCH] " Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-12 18:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-12 19:25 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-12 19:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-03-12 20:10 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-12 22:12 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-03-14 14:16 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-14 14:20 ` [PATCH v2] " Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-25 14:39 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-25 14:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-03-25 15:50 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-26 23:05 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-25 23:14 ` David Miller
2008-03-26 15:01 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-11 21:35 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-12 5:14 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-12 8:10 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-12 8:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-12 19:25 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-12 10:59 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-12 20:19 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-14 19:16 ` Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P
2008-04-14 21:09 ` David Miller
2008-04-18 15:58 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-18 22:32 ` David Miller
2008-04-21 15:30 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-21 19:31 ` James Chapman
2008-04-22 19:06 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-22 21:46 ` Paul Fulghum
2008-04-22 20:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-22 22:05 ` David Miller
2008-04-23 17:02 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-23 22:49 ` David Miller
2008-04-24 0:48 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-24 1:08 ` David Miller
2008-04-24 13:12 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-24 13:30 ` David Miller
2008-04-24 13:39 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-24 13:55 ` David Miller
2008-04-24 20:46 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-24 20:44 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-25 11:10 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-05-12 10:32 ` David Miller
2008-05-14 12:45 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-05-19 17:00 ` [PATCH] WAN: protect HDLC proto list while insmod/rmmod Krzysztof Halasa
2008-05-19 21:06 ` David Miller
2008-05-22 10:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-05-14 16:17 ` [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-24 20:50 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-04-22 22:23 ` James Chapman
2008-04-22 22:51 ` David Miller
2008-04-22 22:02 ` David Miller
2008-04-22 23:52 ` Paul Fulghum [this message]
2008-04-12 9:12 ` Jeff Garzik
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