netdev.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Patrick Mullaney <pmullaney@novell.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, Gregory Haskins <GHaskins@novell.com>,
	chuck.lever@oracle.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Killing sk->sk_callback_lock (was Re: [PATCH] net/core/sock.c remove extra wakeup)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:09:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48572B03.1050602@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080617025612.GA8191@gondor.apana.org.au>

Herbert Xu a écrit :
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 07:38:23PM -0600, Patrick Mullaney wrote:
>> I don't follow but I wasn't part of the IRC discussion. :-) Please
>> send me a note out of band if you would like to discuss again on IRC.
>> I agree that the sk_callback_lock may be significant overhead
>> (although lockstat is not showing it to be highly contended).
> 
> Lock contention doesn't matter! The worst problem with read-write
> locks is cache-line bouncing.  That is, read locks will grab cache
> lines from other read locks thus causing performance to go down
> the drain if read locks are common (which is the only scenario
> where you use read-write locks anyway).  Moral of the story is
> that read-write locks are bad.
> 
> Cheers,

Yes, read-write locks are bad (not the concept itself, only their
implementation) but alternatives are complex to setup and maintain.

ipt_do_table() for example hits a read-write lock for every packet
handled on a chain. This is why firewalling sucks even with few rules.






  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-17  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <484F43A3020000760003F543@lucius.provo.novell.com>
2008-06-17  1:38 ` Killing sk->sk_callback_lock (was Re: [PATCH] net/core/sock.c remove extra wakeup) Patrick Mullaney
2008-06-17  1:53   ` Killing sk->sk_callback_lock David Miller
2008-06-17  4:01     ` Gregory Haskins
2008-06-17  4:09       ` David Miller
2008-06-17  4:20         ` Gregory Haskins
2008-06-17  4:30           ` Gregory Haskins
2008-06-17  4:22       ` Fwd: " Gregory Haskins
2008-06-17  4:56       ` David Miller
2008-06-17 11:42         ` Gregory Haskins
2008-06-17 13:38     ` Patrick Mullaney
2008-06-17 21:40       ` David Miller
2008-06-17 22:15         ` Patrick Mullaney
2008-06-17 23:24           ` Herbert Xu
2008-06-18  7:36         ` Remi Denis-Courmont
2008-06-17  2:56   ` Killing sk->sk_callback_lock (was Re: [PATCH] net/core/sock.c remove extra wakeup) Herbert Xu
2008-06-17  3:09     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2008-06-17 23:33   ` Herbert Xu
     [not found] <4857F579020000B30004963C@lucius.provo.novell.com>
2008-06-18 16:49 ` Patrick Mullaney
2008-05-30 10:05 [PATCH] net/core/sock.c remove extra wakeup Gregory Haskins
2008-06-11  6:46 ` Herbert Xu
2008-06-11  9:16   ` Killing sk->sk_callback_lock (was Re: [PATCH] net/core/sock.c remove extra wakeup) David Miller
2008-06-12 14:05     ` Herbert Xu

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=48572B03.1050602@cosmosbay.com \
    --to=dada1@cosmosbay.com \
    --cc=GHaskins@novell.com \
    --cc=chuck.lever@oracle.com \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=herbert@gondor.apana.org.au \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=pmullaney@novell.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).