From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: Travis Stratman <tstratman@emacinc.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: data received but not detected
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:08:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <485AE70A.9040807@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1213915992.9245.71.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Travis Stratman wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 16:45 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
>> Travis Stratman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 15:31 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
>>>> Travis Stratman wrote:
>>>>> I am working on an application that uses a fairly simple UDP protocol to
>>>>> send data between two embedded devices. I'm noticing an issue with an
>>>>> initial test that was written where datagrams are received but not seen
>>>>> by the recvfrom() call until more data arrives after it. As of right now
>>>>> the test case does not implement any type of lost packet protection or
>>>>> other flow control, which is what makes the issue so noticeable.
>>>> UDP packets can be lost anywhere..including in the receive buffer
>>>> after it has been received by the NIC.
>>>>
>>>> You probably just need to write your code smarter to use non-blocking
>>>> IO and deal with packet loss.
>>> Thanks Ben.
>>>
>>> I understand that there is no guarantee of anything with UDP, but it
>>> seems to me that if there is a packet in the buffer (it shows up after
>>> another packet comes in behind it) the system should know about it,
>>> right?
>> Ahh, I see what you mean.
>>
>> I'm afraid I don't know anything about your NIC driver, and it would
>> seem to be implicated.
>
> I agree, but it also troubles me that the x86 board that I noticed the
> same issue on uses the realtek (8139too) driver, so I'm not completely
> convinced that the issue is at the NIC level.
If you run a sniffer on the machine that is dropping/delaying receiving
the pkt, you can probably determine whether it is a driver issue or some
other stack issue:
If you see the pkt in the sniffer, but not in the application, then
it's probably a udp stack issue or at least not the driver.
Otherwise, the driver must be holding onto the packet.
Thanks,
Ben
--
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-19 23:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-17 22:08 data received but not detected Travis Stratman
2008-06-17 22:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-06-17 22:40 ` Travis Stratman
2008-06-17 22:31 ` Ben Greear
2008-06-17 22:58 ` Travis Stratman
2008-06-17 23:45 ` Ben Greear
2008-06-19 22:53 ` Travis Stratman
2008-06-19 23:08 ` Ben Greear [this message]
2008-06-22 9:16 ` James Chapman
2008-07-07 21:56 ` Travis Stratman
2008-07-08 9:37 ` James Chapman
2008-07-15 20:46 ` Travis Stratman
2008-06-18 6:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-19 23:10 ` Travis Stratman
[not found] ` <20080620060219.GA22784@2ka.mipt.ru>
2008-06-20 17:10 ` Travis Stratman
2008-06-20 17:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-20 17:41 ` Travis Stratman
2008-06-20 17:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-20 18:17 ` Travis Stratman
2008-06-20 18:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-20 21:06 ` Travis Stratman
2008-06-21 7:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-07-07 21:10 ` Travis Stratman
2008-07-07 21:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-07-15 20:43 ` Travis Stratman
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