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From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	rick.jones2@hp.com, dlstevens@us.ibm.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IPV4: Enable IP_ID sequencing for all traffic (inquiring mindswant to know why its set to zero)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:37:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <487E7813.2040708@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A104AFDAA4@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com>

Templin, Fred L wrote:

> The other implied use for IP_ID is as a uniquifier for
> duplicate packet detection (DPD), e.g., to detect routing
> loops in the network. But, 16 bits doesn't give sufficient
> uniqueness for today's data rates anway, so flooding-based
> protocols like Simplified Multicast Forwarding (SMF) really
> can't use IP_ID by itself for that purpose.

Well yes that was how the issue came about.

> SEAL extends the IP_ID to 32 bits. With 32 bits, it makes
> sense to set it as monotonically-incrementing for every
> packet out since a network-based DPD mechanism could
> potentially make use of it. Also, 32 bits avoids the ID
> wraparound issue such that a segmentation and reassembly
> mechanism can be used even at high data rates.
> 
> SEAL is specified in 'draft-templin-seal', and is also
> implemented at:
> 
>   http://osprey67.com/seal

Ahh... interesting. Maybe that would help. I will have a look at that.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-16 22:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-16 14:56 IPV4: Enable IP_ID sequencing for all traffic (inquiring minds want to know why its set to zero) Christoph Lameter
2008-07-16 19:03 ` David Stevens
2008-07-16 19:06   ` David Stevens
2008-07-16 19:22     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-16 20:30       ` David Miller
2008-07-16 20:39         ` Rick Jones
2008-07-16 21:01           ` David Miller
2008-07-16 21:16             ` IPV4: Enable IP_ID sequencing for all traffic (inquiring mindswant " Templin, Fred L
2008-07-16 22:37               ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-07-16 20:27 ` IPV4: Enable IP_ID sequencing for all traffic (inquiring minds want " David Miller
2008-07-17 16:12 ` Andi Kleen

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