From: Patrick McHardy <kaber-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
To: David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: hadi-fAAogVwAN2Kw5LPnMra/2Q@public.gmane.org,
netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org,
linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/31]: pkt_sched: Perform bulk of qdisc destruction in RCU.
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:48:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <487FDA67.30902@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080717.152447.89672084.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
David Miller wrote:
> From: Patrick McHardy <kaber-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:02:20 +0200
>
>> jamal wrote:
>>> prioritization based on TOS/DSCP (setsockopt) would no longer work, some
>>> user space code may suffer (routing daemons likely). One suggestion to
>>> fix it is to load pfifo qdisc (which does what fifo_fast is attempting)
>>> for drivers that are h/ware multiq capable.
>> That would perform priorization within each qdisc, the individual
>> qdiscs would still be transmitted using seperate HW queues though.
>
> I think from certain perspectives it frankly doesn't matter.
>
> It's not like the skb->priority field lets the SKB bypass the packets
> already in the TX ring of the chip with a lower priority.
>
> It is true that, once the TX ring is full, the skb->priority thus
> begins to have an influence on which packets are moved from the
> qdisc to the TX ring of the device.
>
> However, I wonder if we're so sure that we want to give normal users
> that kind of powers. Let's say for example that you set the highest
> priority possible in the TOS socket option, and you do this for a ton
> of UDP sockets, and you just blast packets out as fast as possible.
> This backlogs the device TX ring, and if done effectively enough could
> keep other sockets blocked out of the device completely.
>
> Are we really really sure it's OK to let users do this? :)
>
> To me, as a default, I think TOS and DSCP really means just on-wire
> priority.
>
> If we absolutely want to, we can keep the old pfifo_fast around and use
> it (shared on multiq) if a certain sysctl knob is set.
No, I fully agree that this is too much detail :) Its highly
unlikely that this default behaviour is important on a per
packet level :) I just meant to point out that using a pfifo
is not going to be the same behaviour as previously.
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-17 12:17 [PATCH 20/31]: pkt_sched: Perform bulk of qdisc destruction in RCU David Miller
[not found] ` <20080717.051726.226040470.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-17 13:03 ` Patrick McHardy
[not found] ` <487F4327.1000107-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-17 13:12 ` David Miller
2008-07-17 13:48 ` Patrick McHardy
[not found] ` <487F4DA6.6010009-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-17 22:36 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20080717.153609.142867331.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-17 23:58 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-17 13:35 ` jamal
2008-07-17 14:02 ` Patrick McHardy
[not found] ` <487F50EC.80008-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-17 22:24 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20080717.152447.89672084.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-17 23:48 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2008-07-18 13:10 ` jamal
2008-07-18 13:27 ` jamal
2008-07-18 21:05 ` David Miller
2008-07-20 15:16 ` jamal
2008-07-20 17:25 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20080720.102534.246150854.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-20 17:34 ` Tomas Winkler
[not found] ` <1ba2fa240807201034u1fbe3343tdcc858f7772d2b39-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-20 17:35 ` David Miller
2008-07-20 22:32 ` jamal
2008-07-20 23:59 ` David Miller
2008-07-21 2:20 ` jamal
2008-07-21 11:20 ` jamal
2008-07-21 16:45 ` David Miller
2008-07-21 11:58 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <E1KKu2D-0002kd-00-XQvu0L+U/CjiRBuR/1fSEKKkPtS2pBon@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 13:08 ` jamal
2008-07-21 13:19 ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-21 13:56 ` jamal
2008-07-21 13:58 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20080721135846.GA11543-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 15:09 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20080721.080901.214889979.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 15:22 ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-21 15:26 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20080721.082627.128593651.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 16:16 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20080721161616.GA12938-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 16:25 ` David Miller
2008-07-21 16:43 ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-21 16:51 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20080721.095124.89249903.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 17:02 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20080721170233.GA13417-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 17:08 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20080721.100821.38432201.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 17:11 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 6:56 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 7:16 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20080822.001620.141235108.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-22 7:41 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20080822074115.GB25615-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-22 10:42 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20080822.034217.135152551.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-22 10:47 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 13:52 ` jamal
[not found] ` <20080822065655.GA18471-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-22 13:43 ` jamal
2008-07-21 17:35 ` David Miller
2008-07-18 17:10 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <adaljzz6ruq.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-20 14:58 ` jamal
2008-07-20 14:32 ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-20 17:20 ` David Miller
2008-07-20 14:20 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <E1KKZmE-0000ty-00-XQvu0L+U/CjiRBuR/1fSEKKkPtS2pBon@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-20 15:35 ` jamal
2008-07-21 0:11 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20080721001119.GA6515-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 2:33 ` jamal
2008-07-21 3:17 ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-21 11:14 ` jamal
2008-07-21 11:36 ` Herbert Xu
[not found] ` <20080721113600.GA10322-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-21 11:39 ` jamal
2008-07-19 3:59 ` David Miller
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