From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede@hhs.nl>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cat /proc/net/tcp takes 0.5 seconds on x86_64
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:27:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48B47543.8080701@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48B46E89.4030104@hhs.nl>
Hans de Goede a écrit :
> Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> Hans de Goede a écrit :
>>> Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>>> Dave Jones a écrit :
>>>>> Just had this bug reported against our development tree..
>>> <snip>
>>>>> > [hans@localhost devel]$ time cat /proc/net/tcp
>>>>> > <snip>
>>>>> > real 0m0.520s
>>>>> > user 0m0.000s
>>>>> > sys 0m0.446s
>>>>> > > Thats amazingly slow, esp as I only have 8 tcp connections open.
>>>>> > > Some maybe usefull info: top reports a very high load (50%)
>>>>> from soft IRQ's.
>>>>> > > Anyways changing this to a kernel bug.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder why this qualifies as a "kernel bug". This is a well known
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No its not, /proc/net/tcp may be slow in general but not *this* slow ...
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time difference between /proc/net/tcp and netlink on a 4GB x86_64
>>>> machine :
>>>>
>>>> # dmesg | grep "TCP established hash"
>>>> TCP established hash table entries: 262144 (order: 10, 4194304 bytes)
>>>> # time cat /proc/net/tcp >/dev/null
>>>>
>>>> real 0m0.091s
>>>> user 0m0.001s
>>>> sys 0m0.090s
>>>
>>> As quoted above my idle x86_64, using the exact same hash table size,
>>> running 2.6.27-rc2.git1 uses 0.520 seconds for that same command,
>>> thats a difference of more then a factor 50 !!
>>>
>>> This is not about /proc/net/tcp not being fast, this is about it
>>> haven gotten slower by a factor of 50!
>>>
>>> Also notice that this slowdown does not happen on i386.
>>
>> And your .config files on i386 and x86_64 are ?
>> Some configuration options can slow down all lock/unlock operations
>> (CONFIG_SMP, CONFIG_PREEMPT, CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING,
>> CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK, CONFIG_NR_CPUS ...)
>>
>
> Attached
>
>> If you TCP hash table has 512.000 slots (I am just guessing, you didnt
>> provide this information), it can make a huge difference.
>
> I did provide that information: "using the exact same hash table size"
> and then quoting your first mail in this thread:
> "TCP established hash table entries: 262144 (order: 10, 4194304 bytes)"
>
>>>
>>> Anyways I'll try 2.6.27-rc4 and report back with its results.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, please, but nothing really changed in this area in the recent
>> times...
>>
>
> I'm afraid that atleast the Fedora rc4 build won't boot on my machine ...
>
>> We added some checks so that softirqs can preempt us.
>> Latencies used to be very high, and are now bonded, at the price of
>> potential slowdown for the /proc/net/tcp reader.
>
> Slowdown as in 2x or 4x as slow I presume, not 50x ?
I dont know, you tell us 50x, but nowhere I saw your numbers on i386,
nor the amount of memory of your test machine.
One important thing to remember is that on i386, LOWMEM is less than 1GB,
so a 4GB server will give different hash sizes depending on being 32 or 64 bits.
With a 32 bits kernel:
# dmesg | grep "TCP established"
TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
# time cat /proc/net/tcp >/dev/null
real 0m0.025s
user 0m0.000s
sys 0m0.017s
While on a 64 bits kernel :
# dmesg | grep "TCP established hash"
TCP established hash table entries: 262144 (order: 10, 4194304 bytes)
# time cat /proc/net/tcp >/dev/null
real 0m0.091s
user 0m0.001s
sys 0m0.090s
So I see a 3x on my machine, not a 50x as you ?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-26 21:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <bug-459782-176318@bugzilla.redhat.com>
[not found] ` <200808261549.m7QFnVUN032543@bz-web1.app.phx.redhat.com>
2008-08-26 16:37 ` cat /proc/net/tcp takes 0.5 seconds on x86_64 Dave Jones
2008-08-26 18:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-26 19:01 ` Hans de Goede
2008-08-26 20:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-26 20:58 ` Hans de Goede
2008-08-26 21:27 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2008-08-27 9:14 ` Hans de Goede
2008-08-27 9:05 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 9:45 ` Hans de Goede
2008-08-27 9:39 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 4:19 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-27 9:07 ` Hans de Goede
2008-08-27 12:41 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 21:29 ` Trent Piepho
2008-08-27 21:47 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 22:54 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 21:29 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 21:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-27 22:09 ` David Miller
2008-08-28 6:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-28 6:51 ` David Miller
2008-08-28 7:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-28 7:57 ` David Miller
2008-08-28 9:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-28 7:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 22:34 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 22:39 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 22:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 23:07 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 23:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-27 23:15 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 23:35 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 23:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-27 23:45 ` David Miller
2008-08-28 0:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-28 7:45 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-28 7:59 ` David Miller
2008-08-28 8:12 ` Hans de Goede
2008-08-28 8:04 ` David Miller
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=48B47543.8080701@cosmosbay.com \
--to=dada1@cosmosbay.com \
--cc=davej@redhat.com \
--cc=j.w.r.degoede@hhs.nl \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).