From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Nagle latency tuning
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:57:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D822E6.6070309@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48D82082.7010803@hp.com>
Rick Jones wrote:
>> Indeed. Setting tcp_delack_min to 0 completely eliminated the
>> undesired latencies, though of course that would be a bit dangerous
>> with naive apps talking across the network.
>
> What did it do to the packets per second or per unit of work? Depending
> on the nature of the race between the ACK returning from the remote and
> the application pushing more bytes into the socket, I'd think that
> setting the delayed ack timer to zero could result in more traffic on
> the network (those bare ACKs) than simply setting TCP_NODELAY at the
> source.
>
> And since with small packets and/or copy avoidance an ACK is
> (handwaving) just as many CPU cycles at either end as a data segment
> that also means a bump in CPU utilization.
>
> rick jones
I never saw performance go down, but I was always using low latency/high
bandwidth loopback or LAN connection, with only one socket per CPU.
I agree though, that turning this off is suboptimal. I'm going to pursue
David's idea of making delack_min and ato_min dynamically calculated by the kernel.
-- Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-22 22:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-08 21:56 RFC: Nagle latency tuning Christopher Snook
2008-09-08 22:39 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-09 5:10 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 5:17 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 5:56 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 6:02 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 10:31 ` Mark Brown
2008-09-09 12:05 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 12:09 ` Mark Brown
2008-09-09 12:19 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 6:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-09 6:28 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 13:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-09 14:36 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 18:40 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 19:07 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 19:21 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-11 4:08 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 19:59 ` David Miller
2008-09-09 20:25 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-22 10:49 ` David Miller
2008-09-22 11:09 ` David Miller
2008-09-22 20:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-22 22:22 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-22 22:26 ` David Miller
2008-09-22 23:00 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-22 23:13 ` David Miller
2008-09-22 23:24 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-22 23:21 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 0:14 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23 0:33 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-23 2:12 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23 1:40 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 2:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23 2:28 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 2:41 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-22 22:47 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-22 22:57 ` Chris Snook [this message]
2008-09-09 16:33 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-09 16:54 ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-09 17:21 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-09 17:54 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-08 22:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 5:22 ` Chris Snook
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