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From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: andi@firstfloor.org, rick.jones2@hp.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Nagle latency tuning
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:00:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D82378.4000306@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080922.152615.215876787.davem@davemloft.net>

David Miller wrote:
> From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:22:13 -0400
> 
>> How horrendous of a layering violation would it be to attach TCP
>> performance parameters (either user-supplied or based on interface
>> stats) to route table entries, like route metrics but intended to
>> guide TCP autotuning?  It seems like it shouldn't be that hard to
>> teach TCP that it doesn't need to optimize my lo connections much,
>> and that it should be optimizing my eth0 subnet connections for
>> lower latency and higher bandwidth than the connections that go
>> through my gateway into the great beyond.
> 
> We already do this for other TCP connection parameters, and I tend to
> think these delack/ato values belong there too.
> 
> If we add a global knob, people are just going to turn it on even if
> they are also connected to the real internet on the system rather than
> only internal networks they completely control.
> 
> That tends to cause problems.  It gets an entry on all of these bogus
> "Linux performance tuning" sections administrators read from the
> various financial messaging products.  So everyone does it without
> thinking and using their brains.

I agree 100%.  Could you please point me to an example of a connection parameter 
that gets tuned and cached this way, so I can experiment with it?

-- Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-22 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-08 21:56 RFC: Nagle latency tuning Christopher Snook
2008-09-08 22:39 ` Rick Jones
2008-09-09  5:10   ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09  5:17     ` David Miller
2008-09-09  5:56       ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09  6:02         ` David Miller
2008-09-09 10:31           ` Mark Brown
2008-09-09 12:05             ` David Miller
2008-09-09 12:09               ` Mark Brown
2008-09-09 12:19                 ` David Miller
2008-09-09  6:22         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-09  6:28           ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 13:00           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-09 14:36     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 18:40       ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 19:07         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09 19:21           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-11  4:08           ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 19:59         ` David Miller
2008-09-09 20:25           ` Chris Snook
2008-09-22 10:49           ` David Miller
2008-09-22 11:09             ` David Miller
2008-09-22 20:30               ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-22 22:22                 ` Chris Snook
2008-09-22 22:26                   ` David Miller
2008-09-22 23:00                     ` Chris Snook [this message]
2008-09-22 23:13                       ` David Miller
2008-09-22 23:24                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-22 23:21                           ` David Miller
2008-09-23  0:14                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23  0:33                               ` Rick Jones
2008-09-23  2:12                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23  1:40                               ` David Miller
2008-09-23  2:23                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23  2:28                                   ` David Miller
2008-09-23  2:41                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-22 22:47                   ` Rick Jones
2008-09-22 22:57                     ` Chris Snook
2008-09-09 16:33     ` Rick Jones
2008-09-09 16:54       ` Chuck Lever
2008-09-09 17:21         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-09 17:54         ` Rick Jones
2008-09-08 22:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-09  5:22   ` Chris Snook

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