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From: Brian Haley <brian.haley@hp.com>
To: David Stevens <dlstevens@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Alex Sidorenko <alexandre.sidorenko@hp.com>,
	fubar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org,
	Vlad Yasevich <vladislav.yasevich@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] bonding: add better ipv6 failover support
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:28:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48DD37C8.1010205@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFE12AA65F.345E597C-ON882574D0.00637542-882574D0.00679AFC@us.ibm.com>

David Stevens wrote:
> 1) You're calling mld_send_report() directly, which will send the MLD
>         report synchronously. It should use the randomized timer (see 
> igmp6_join_group).
>         A mass failover (e.g., a power event in a cluster) would blast all 
> of these at once,
>         which is why the randomized timer is required for gratuitous 
> reports. This
>         should use a randomized timer, like mld_ifc_start_timer(), but 
> joining the
>         group all by itself will do that.

Ok, I'll try and change this code to spin through all the multicast 
addresses on the master and call igmp6_join_group() instead.

> 2) There is already a configurable and code for unsolicited neighbor 
> advertisements
>         when adding an address-- why not use that? In fact, wouldn't just 
> moving the
>         failing device's address list to the new device do everything you 
> want, since
>         adding an address already sends unsolicited neighbor 
> advertisements,
>         joins the solicited node address, etc.? Or am I missing something?

In this case the address is configured on the bond master, each slave is 
just used for transmit/receive.  While I could have sent an unsolicited 
NA, sending an NS is much easier, especially since it's only notifying 
the switch that the address has moved.

> 3) MLD has a lot of state and it's all associated with the device. 
> Changing the sending
>         device out from under it seems risky to me. I don't know enough 
> about
>         bonding, but I think you really just want all the group 
> memberships and
>         MLD state to be with the master device and the master should just 
> go
>         through the multicast list for the master and join those groups on 
> the
>         new slave. The MLD code will already resolve the filters 
> appropriately
>         for joins and filters already done directly on the new slave that 
> way.
>                 Actually, I thought that's what Jay's prior patch was all 
> about, and
>         those joins should trigger MLD reports where needed, so I'm 
> definitely
>         confused on what the problem with multicasts is beyond the 
> solicited-node
>         addresses (which just needs to mimic the address add code, or use 
> it
>         directly).

Like #1, I'll try changing the code.

Thanks for the comments.

-Brian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-26 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-15 17:35 Bonding and Neighbour Discovery on IPv6-only devices Alex Sidorenko
2008-09-15 18:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-09-15 18:16   ` Jay Vosburgh
2008-09-15 18:16   ` Alex Sidorenko
2008-09-24 16:58     ` Vlad Yasevich
2008-09-24 20:29       ` Jay Vosburgh
2008-09-24 21:07         ` Brian Haley
2008-09-25  2:46         ` [RFC] bonding: add better ipv6 failover support Brian Haley
2008-09-25 15:07           ` Jay Vosburgh
2008-09-25 15:42             ` Brian Haley
2008-10-01  5:53               ` Simon Horman
2008-10-01 13:24                 ` Brian Haley
2008-10-01 13:36                   ` David Miller
2008-09-26 18:51           ` David Stevens
2008-09-26 19:09             ` Jay Vosburgh
2008-09-26 19:28             ` Brian Haley [this message]
2008-09-26 19:55               ` Vlad Yasevich
2008-09-26 19:46             ` Vlad Yasevich

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