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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: nhorman@tuxdriver.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, pekkas@netcore.fi, jmorris@namei.org,
	yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, kaber@trash.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: implement emergency route cache rebulds when gc_elasticity is exceeded
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:47:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E2662A.6030104@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080930.070804.26007839.davem@davemloft.net>

David Miller a écrit :
> From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:12:54 -0400
> 
>> 	We currently have the ability to disable our route cache secret interval
>> rebuild timer (by setting it to zero), but if we do that its possible for an
>> attacker (if they guess our route cache hash secret, to fill our system with
>> routes that all hash to the same bucket, destroying our performance.  This patch
>> provides a backstop for that issues.  In the event that our rebuild interval is
>> disabled (or very large), if any hash chain exceeds ip_rt_gc_elasticity, we do
>> an emergency hash rebuild.  During the hash rebuild we:
>> 1) warn the user of the emergency
>> 2) disable the rebuild timer
>> 3) invalidate the route caches
>> 4) re-enable the rebuild timer with its old value
> 
> I just want to clarify what my intentions were when I spoke
> with Neil about this stuff last week.
> 
> The idea is that we can by default not rebuild the secret
> at all.
> 
> And only when we notice that chains are growing larger than
> "(NUM_RTCACHE_ENTRIES / NUM_HASH_CHAINS) * N", only then
> do we do this secret rebuild and flush.  Where N is some
> constant of configurable value, the GC elasticity is some
> example.
> 
> Normally this whole hash secret business is totally unnecessary and
> there is zero reason to do it until we notice there is actually some
> kind of deep hash chain growth problem.
> 
> It's expensive, we flush the whole routing cache, so doing it
> every so often by default makes no sense and it is causing
> performance problems for people.

Intentions are very good, thanks for clarifying and letting us know.





  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-30 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-29 19:12 [PATCH] net: implement emergency route cache rebulds when gc_elasticity is exceeded Neil Horman
2008-09-29 20:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-09-29 20:27   ` Neil Horman
2008-09-29 21:00     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-09-29 22:38       ` Neil Horman
2008-09-30  6:02         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-09-30 11:23           ` Neil Horman
2008-09-30 14:10           ` David Miller
2008-09-30 17:16             ` Eric Dumazet
2008-09-30 18:42               ` Neil Horman
2008-10-02  7:16                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-02 13:14                   ` Neil Horman
2008-10-01 18:08               ` Neil Horman
2008-10-02  5:01                 ` Bill Fink
2008-10-02  6:56                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-02  8:15                     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-02 14:20                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-03  0:31                       ` Neil Horman
2008-10-03 20:36                         ` Neil Horman
2008-10-06 10:49                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-06 13:14                             ` Neil Horman
2008-10-06 20:54                             ` Neil Horman
2008-10-06 21:21                               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-06 22:52                                 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-07  5:13                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-07 10:54                                     ` Neil Horman
2008-10-13 18:26                                     ` Neil Horman
2008-10-16  6:55                                       ` David Miller
2008-10-16  9:19                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-16 21:18                                           ` David Miller
2008-10-16 11:41                                         ` Neil Horman
2008-10-16 12:25                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-16 16:36                                             ` Neil Horman
2008-10-16 23:35                                               ` Neil Horman
2008-10-17  4:53                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-17  5:23                                                   ` David Miller
2008-10-17  5:03                                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-17  5:06                                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-17 10:39                                                   ` Neil Horman
     [not found]                                                     ` <48F8806A.6090306@cosmosbay.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <20081017152328.GB23591@hmsreliant.think-freely.org>
     [not found]                                                         ` <48F8AFBE.5080503@cosmosbay.com>
2008-10-17 20:44                                                           ` Neil Horman
2008-10-18  0:54                                                             ` Neil Horman
2008-10-18  4:36                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-18 13:30                                                                 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-20  0:07                                                                 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-20  8:12                                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-27 19:28                                                                     ` David Miller
2008-10-02  7:13               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-30 14:08   ` David Miller
2008-09-30 14:08 ` David Miller
2008-09-30 17:47   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2008-10-05  3:26   ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-05  4:45     ` Andrew Dickinson
2008-10-05 17:34       ` David Miller
2008-10-05 18:06         ` Andrew Dickinson
2008-10-06  4:21         ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-06 10:50           ` Neil Horman
2008-10-06 11:02             ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-06 12:43               ` Neil Horman
2008-09-30 14:17 ` Denis V. Lunev
2008-09-30 14:35   ` Neil Horman
2008-09-30 14:49     ` Denis V. Lunev
2008-10-05  3:17 ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-05  3:20   ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-06  0:52     ` Neil Horman

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