From: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
benjamin.thery@bull.net, ebiederm@xmission.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] [RFC] netns: enable cross-ve Unix sockets
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:18:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E394D2.5090709@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1222872885.23573.64.camel@iris.sw.ru>
Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:46 +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>> Denis V. Lunev wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 14:31 +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>> Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>>>>>> So there are 2 cases:
>>>>>> * full isolation : restriction on VPS
>>>>>> * partial isolation : no restriction but *perhaps* problem when migrating
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like we need an option per namespace to reduce the isolation for
>>>>>> af_unix sockets :)
>>>>>> - on (default): current behaviour => full isolation
>>>>>> - off : partial isolation
>>>>> You mean some sysctl, that enables/disables this check in unix_find_socket_byinode?
>>>> Yes.
>>> I do not see much sense with sysctl as:
>>> - check (cross-connected sockets) is required as we can start namespace
>>> with already opened socket
>> Check when checkpointing ? If you inherit a socket from your parent
>> namespace, this socket belongs to your parent and you should not
>> checkpoint it, no ?
>>
>> In case you allow cross-connected sockets, this check is mandatory I agree.
>>
>>> - this kind of sharing is not implicit but explicit as normal isolated
>>> containers _must_ have separate filesystems. In this case this
>>> sharing requires explicit host administrator action to link socket
>>> between containers
>> What are "normal isolated containers" ? Are they OpenVZ containers ?
>> These containers belong to the system containers family. What happens
>> with application containers, if I want to share the filesystem without
>> breaking the isolation of the afunix sockets ?
>
> then you are doomed as you will have a FIFO opened from 2 namespaces and
> checking the absences of external references is still mandatory
>> The current code provides full isolation and this is in mainline. I
>> don't think it is reasonable to change that. What I propose is to keep
>> the current behaviour.
>>
>> When you create a network namespace, you can change the behaviour inside
>> this namespace via /proc/sys/net/unix/isolated (for example).
>>
>> This option allows:
>> 1 - to connect to af_unix not belonging to the container
>> 2 - to accept af_unix connection from outside the container (avoid a
>> container to forbid the checkpoint of another container);
>
> this should be at least per/namespace option controlled from parent
> container from my POW
Yes per namespace, I agree.
If the option is controlled by the parent and it is done by sysctl, you
will have to make proc/sys per namespace like Pavel did with /proc/net, no ?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-01 15:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-01 10:54 [PATCH net-next] [RFC] netns: enable cross-ve Unix sockets Denis V. Lunev
2008-10-01 11:13 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-01 11:32 ` Denis V. Lunev
2008-10-01 11:55 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <48E3653C.1070701-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-01 12:03 ` Denis V. Lunev
2008-10-01 12:19 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-01 12:24 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-10-01 12:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-01 12:40 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-10-01 13:08 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-01 13:50 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-01 15:07 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-01 13:11 ` Denis V. Lunev
2008-10-01 13:46 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-01 14:54 ` Denis V. Lunev
2008-10-01 15:18 ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2008-10-01 15:31 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-10-01 15:38 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-01 15:42 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-10-01 16:15 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-02 10:21 ` Denis V. Lunev
2008-10-02 20:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
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