From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Bill Fink <billfink@mindspring.com>
Cc: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, pekkas@netcore.fi,
jmorris@namei.org, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, kaber@trash.net,
Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: implement emergency route cache rebulds when gc_elasticity is exceeded
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:20:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E4D8C4.6020206@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48E4832A.3070804@cosmosbay.com>
Eric Dumazet a écrit :
> Eric Dumazet a écrit :
>> Bill Fink a écrit :
>>> I believe the general rule of thumb for something like this is at
>>> least two standard deviations. For a normal distribution, one standard
>>> deviation covers about 68 % of the sample universe, while two standard
>>> deviations covers about 95 % (three standard deviations covers 99.73 %).
>>> See the Wikipedia entry:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill for the pointer, this is the trick.
>>
>> I believe we should target "4σ 99.993666% " case.
>>
>> But we dont need to really compute Standard deviation at runtime, only
>> find an (upper) approximation of it.
>>
>> For elasticity=4 and 512*1024 samples (mean < 4), I guess 4σ can be
>> approximated by 20 or something.
>>
>
> Good estimation of Standard Deviation could be computed for free
> in rt_check_expire(). (each runs scans 20% of hash table with default
> tunables timeout & ip_rt_gc_interval)
>
> We could update 4σ estimation in this function, every minute
> (ip_rt_gc_interval)
>
> At softirq time we then can detect a particular hash chain is
> longer than 4σ estimation and trigger an appropriate action.
>
> This action is to : flush table, and while we do that, expand hash table
> if its current size is under ip_rt_max_size/elasticity...
>
I ran again my litle dirty program that reads /proc/kcore to explore rt
hash table on a busy server and found :
hptr=0xffff81082ec00000 hsize=524288
total=2299242 dst entries
4306 chains of length 0
23807 chains of length 1
60119 chains of length 2
95112 chains of length 3
106364 chains of length 4
92307 chains of length 5
65743 chains of length 6
39710 chains of length 7
20997 chains of length 8
15775 chains of length 9
39 chains of length 10
7 chains of length 11
2 chains of length 12
avg = 4.38546
sd = 1.94614
X = avg + 4*sd = 12.17
I tried various elasticity settings and found litle variations of X
This is because lot of entries are in use (refcnt>1) and can
not be freed, regardless of elasticity.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-02 14:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-29 19:12 [PATCH] net: implement emergency route cache rebulds when gc_elasticity is exceeded Neil Horman
2008-09-29 20:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-09-29 20:27 ` Neil Horman
2008-09-29 21:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-09-29 22:38 ` Neil Horman
2008-09-30 6:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-09-30 11:23 ` Neil Horman
2008-09-30 14:10 ` David Miller
2008-09-30 17:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-09-30 18:42 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-02 7:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-02 13:14 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-01 18:08 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-02 5:01 ` Bill Fink
2008-10-02 6:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-02 8:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-02 14:20 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2008-10-03 0:31 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-03 20:36 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-06 10:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-06 13:14 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-06 20:54 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-06 21:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-06 22:52 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-07 5:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-07 10:54 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-13 18:26 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-16 6:55 ` David Miller
2008-10-16 9:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-16 21:18 ` David Miller
2008-10-16 11:41 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-16 12:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-16 16:36 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-16 23:35 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-17 4:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-17 5:23 ` David Miller
2008-10-17 5:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-17 5:06 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-17 10:39 ` Neil Horman
[not found] ` <48F8806A.6090306@cosmosbay.com>
[not found] ` <20081017152328.GB23591@hmsreliant.think-freely.org>
[not found] ` <48F8AFBE.5080503@cosmosbay.com>
2008-10-17 20:44 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-18 0:54 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-18 4:36 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-18 13:30 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-20 0:07 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-20 8:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-27 19:28 ` David Miller
2008-10-02 7:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-30 14:08 ` David Miller
2008-09-30 14:08 ` David Miller
2008-09-30 17:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-05 3:26 ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-05 4:45 ` Andrew Dickinson
2008-10-05 17:34 ` David Miller
2008-10-05 18:06 ` Andrew Dickinson
2008-10-06 4:21 ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-06 10:50 ` Neil Horman
2008-10-06 11:02 ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-06 12:43 ` Neil Horman
2008-09-30 14:17 ` Denis V. Lunev
2008-09-30 14:35 ` Neil Horman
2008-09-30 14:49 ` Denis V. Lunev
2008-10-05 3:17 ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-05 3:20 ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-06 0:52 ` Neil Horman
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