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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>
Cc: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	efault@gmx.de, mingo@elte.hu, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: tbench wrt. loopback TSO
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:48:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4911EA97.8080101@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811051527210.23792@wrl-59.cs.helsinki.fi>

Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 02:25:57PM +0200, Ilpo Järvinen (ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi) wrote:
>>
>>>The problem is that we'd need to _resegment with the next skb_ since the 
>>>mss boundary and skb boundary would basically constantly be running 
>>>out-of-sync. That won't get done currently by anything.
>>
>>Btw, what's that wrong if there will be sub-mss frame per tso frame?
> 
> 
> I personally don't consider that to be a big deal... I suppose some see
> it as bad thing because of the slightly larger header vs data ratio...
> Which is significant only if you can saturate the link (or have unbounded 
> bandwidth such as with lo), so slower links are more affected than high 
> speed ones...

Can't say that I tend to "like" subMSS segments out there in a bulk 
transfer but some pseudorandom thoughts:

And the worst that would be would be one full MSS and a single byte, 
getting us an average of (MSS+1)/2 (roughly).  It only gets better from 
there (2MSS+1)/3, (3MSS+1)/4 etc etc.

Ignoring the TSO case for a moment, if there is congestion and receiver 
window available and a user makes a > MSS send that isn't an integral 
multiple of the MSS, we don't delay the last subMSS segment do we?

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-05 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-16  0:14 tbench wrt. loopback TSO David Miller
2008-10-17  3:49 ` non-TCP tbench (was Re: tbench wrt. loopback TSO) David Miller
2008-10-26 12:34 ` tbench wrt. loopback TSO Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27  1:59   ` David Miller
2008-10-27  7:49     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-27 14:13       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27 15:19         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-27 17:03           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27 18:39             ` David Miller
2008-10-27 19:35               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27 19:37                 ` David Miller
2008-11-05 11:42               ` David Miller
2008-11-05 11:49                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-05 11:54                   ` David Miller
2008-11-05 12:04                     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-11-05 12:09                       ` David Miller
2008-11-05 12:25                         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-11-05 13:04                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-05 13:33                             ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-11-05 18:48                               ` Rick Jones [this message]
2008-11-05 19:46                                 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-11-05 21:06                                   ` Rick Jones
2008-10-27 22:17             ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31  8:14               ` David Miller
2008-10-31  9:16                 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31  9:47                   ` David Miller

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