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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: Re: ARP table question
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:39:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49221CE1.9000807@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49221929.7060504@candelatech.com>

Ben Greear wrote:
> Rick Jones wrote:
> 
>>> +static unsigned long neigh_rand_retry(struct neighbour* neigh) {
>>> +    if (neigh->parms->retrans_rand_backoff) {
>>> +        return net_random() % neigh->parms->retrans_rand_backoff;
>>> +    }
>>> +    return 0;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>>  /* Called when a timer expires for a neighbour entry. */
>>
>>
>> I thought that mod was something we tried to avoid?  Could you instead 
>> use something that isn't random but perhaps varies among all the 
>> requests?  Say some of the low-order bits of the IP being resolved?
> 
> 
> This is only called when we are going to retransmit an ARP, which shouldn't
> be in any sort of hot path, so I figured MOD was fine.
> 
> The net_random is a very cheap method (last I checked), as well.
> 
> So, I think that part is OK as it is, but I'm open to
> persuasion :)

Perhaps I'm confused, or simply channeling Emily Litella again, but if 
you only do this on the 1st through Nth retransmissions (ie after the 
first retransmission timer has popped) don't you still have a thundering 
herd problem on the first transmission and the first retransmission of 
ARP requests?

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-18  1:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <491B1600.4080505@candelatech.com>
     [not found] ` <491B1841.9050404@candelatech.com>
2008-11-12 19:43   ` ARP table question Ben Greear
2008-11-12 22:10     ` Ben Greear
2008-11-17  3:16       ` David Miller
2008-11-17 18:17         ` Ben Greear
2008-11-18  0:33           ` Ben Greear
2008-11-18  0:51             ` Rick Jones
2008-11-18  1:23               ` Ben Greear
2008-11-18  1:39                 ` Rick Jones [this message]
2008-11-18  1:50                   ` Ben Greear
2008-11-20  8:33                     ` David Miller
2008-11-20 17:23                       ` Ben Greear
2008-11-20 17:33                         ` Benjamin LaHaise

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