Fwd: iproute weight balancing problem with youtube

Fwd: iproute weight balancing problem with youtube

[Markus Frahm]

Hello,
I didn't receive any answer or subscription confirmation from the other list 
yet, so I forward the problem to this list. Can anybody help?
Greetings
  Markus

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Subject: iproute weight balacing problem with youtube
Date: Monday 27 October 2008
From: Markus Frahm <frahm@sybuca.de>
To: shemminger@osdl.org, lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl

Dear Stephen Hemminger,
we have found a problem with ip route and multiple internet connections using 
the ip route 'weight' option to balance the traffic of a NAT firewall between 
several lines. Internet sites like 'youtube' show videos only with 50% 
probability because youtube and similar sites demand several connections (for 
the web site and the flash stream) to come from the same source IP. Is there a 
simple solution for this problem for example to increase the time in the 
balancing algorithm or a cache for source IPs? 
Regards

  Markus





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Re: [Shorewall-devel] Fwd: iproute weight balancing problem with youtube

[Colin Alston]

On 2008/12/09 07:03 PM Markus Frahm wrote:
> Dear Stephen Hemminger,
> we have found a problem with ip route and multiple internet connections using 
> the ip route 'weight' option to balance the traffic of a NAT firewall between 
> several lines. Internet sites like 'youtube' show videos only with 50% 
> probability because youtube and similar sites demand several connections (for 
> the web site and the flash stream) to come from the same source IP. Is there a 
> simple solution for this problem for example to increase the time in the 
> balancing algorithm or a cache for source IPs? 
> Regards
>   

Should not be a problem. YouTube uses a single stream for buffering and 
there should not be any conflict between a change in source address with 
the request for the flash applet and the stream. HTTP does not work that 
way... There are some protocols that do, in which case there is contrac 
to solve that problem, if there were a bug it would be in contrac so you 
should raise the issue on the Netfilter lists.

I have personally used Shorewall in such a configuration (we are 
designing a product at the moment for that exact purpose) and have not 
seen any issues. Are you sure this is not a packet loss issue on one of 
the upstreams?