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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Oliver Hartkopp <oliver.hartkopp@volkswagen.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8] can: CAN Network device driver and SYSFS interface
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:55:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49A272A3.5040405@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49A01932.4090004@grandegger.com>

Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
> Patrick McHardy wrote:
>> Is sysfs really the best choice for this? It has the usual problems,
>> you can't change multiple parameters at once atomically. Now, I don't
>> know whether this is actually (and currently) a problem for CAN, but
>> given that we already have a generic netlink interface for creating
>> network interfaces that can easily support this, what are the reasons
>> for adding a new interface instead of using the existing one?
> 
> You refer to the API described at http://lwn.net/Articles/236919/, I
> assume.

Exactly.

> Well, I know that netlink is used to define routes in the kernel
> or VLANs but I was not aware that it can also be used to configure real
> network devices. What a pity. At a first glance, I could also be used
> for CAN, of course. There are the following requirements:
> 
> 1. Set and get CAN device properties like bit-rate and controller mode.
> 2. Show CAN bus state (active, error-passive or bus-off).
> 3. Get device constants like clock frequency and bit-timing parameters.
> 4. Dump CAN device statistics.
> 5. Trigger device restart if CAN bus-off state has been detected.
> 
> Not sure yet, if the interface if good for all purposes. Especially
> point 5. might be better handled by an IOCTL.

The first points sound pretty regular. The last one - just triggering
it is no problem of course, but since I don't know how the detection
works, I can't really tell whether its suitable.

> And we need a user space
> tool, e.g. canconfig, to handle the user requests and communicate with
> the kernel side.

Thats pretty standard :)

> We will follow that promising route. Any further help
> or link is appreciated. Thanks.

It should be quite easy to move your interface on top. A few examples
that might be useful are vlan, ip_gre and macvlan.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-23  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-19 19:01 [PATCH 0/8] can: CAN network device driver interface and drivers Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-19 19:01 ` [PATCH 1/8] can: Documentation for the CAN device driver interface Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-19 19:01   ` [PATCH 2/8] can: Update MAINTAINERS and CREDITS file Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-19 19:01     ` [PATCH 3/8] can: CAN Network device driver and SYSFS interface Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-19 19:01       ` [PATCH 4/8] can: Driver for the SJA1000 CAN controller Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-19 19:01         ` [PATCH 5/8] can: SJA1000 generic platform bus driver Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-19 19:01           ` [PATCH 6/8] can: SJA1000 driver for EMS PCI cards Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-19 19:01             ` [PATCH 7/8] can: SJA1000 driver for Kvaser " Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-19 19:01               ` [PATCH 8/8] can: Driver for the Freescale MSCAN controller Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-20  0:14         ` [PATCH 4/8] can: Driver for the SJA1000 CAN controller Jonathan Corbet
2009-02-20  8:46           ` David Miller
2009-02-20  9:35           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-05-01 18:21           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-19 23:49       ` [PATCH 3/8] can: CAN Network device driver and SYSFS interface Jonathan Corbet
2009-02-20  8:39         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-20  9:44       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-21 15:09         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-23  9:55           ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2009-02-23 14:57             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2009-02-24  9:38               ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-24 16:29                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger

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