From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
Cc: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Vlan interface nuisance
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:52:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49AC5534.2090102@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49AC2E32.2020403@gmail.com>
Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> Ben Greear wrote, On 03/02/2009 07:56 PM:
>
>> Jarek Poplawski wrote:
>>> Lennart Sorensen wrote, On 03/02/2009 06:20 PM:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 08:47:31PM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>>>>> Why is interface created through netlink named 'vlan0' and
>>>>> interface created through old vconfig called 'ethX.YY'.
>>>>> Seems like the interface should be consistent.
>>>> That does seem silly.
>>>>
>>>> ethX.YYYY told you which physical interface and which vlan number it was.
>>>>
>>>> vlan0 tells you nothing useful.
>>>
>>>
>>> Even if you have only one ethX?
>> Yes...the old way would tell you the vlan-id regardless of how
>> many NICs you have, which is useful information for anyone
>> actually trying to configure two boxes to talk to each other,
>> or (god forbid), debug someone else's config.
>>
>> It's true you can specify the vlan-name on creation using 'ip',
>> which is what I do, so I'm not going to argue Stephen's change
>> either way..but I do like device names that give more info...
>
> To make it clear: I don't say vlan0 is better; but IMHO it doesn't
> have to be silly or nothing useful either.
Admittedly, this part of the rtnl_link interface could be improved.
The names are allocated centrally when unspecified, which imposes
this fixed naming scheme. A simple callback to choose a better
name than just incrementally counting up interfaces types would
allow to at least choose a default name of ethX.xyz or something
similar. I refuse to introduce the selectable naming schemes to
this interface though, this can easily be done in userspace.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-02 21:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-02 4:47 Vlan interface nuisance Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-02 4:57 ` David Miller
2009-03-02 5:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-02 5:28 ` David Miller
2009-03-02 9:44 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 6:50 ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-02 7:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-02 7:39 ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-02 9:45 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 9:57 ` David Miller
2009-03-02 17:20 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-03-02 18:51 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-02 18:56 ` Ben Greear
2009-03-02 19:06 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-02 19:23 ` Denys Fedoryschenko
2009-03-02 20:24 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-02 21:52 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2009-03-02 19:36 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-03-02 20:07 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-02 21:49 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 21:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-02 21:54 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 22:30 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-02 23:35 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-03 6:41 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-03 6:53 ` Ben Greear
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