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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] macvlan: Support creating macvlans from macvlans
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:25:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49B13259.9040701@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1sklqohw2.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> writes:
> 
>>> So modify macvlan creation to allow automatically forward
>>> a creation of a macvlan on a macvlan to become a creation
>>> of a macvlan on the underlying network device.
>> I'm not sure I understand the constallation, what is the underlying
>> device in this case? A device outside the namespace?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Typical usage would be:
> 
> eth0 in the initial namespace.
> A macvlan off of eth0 in each child namespace.
> 
> Which works fine until I do things like create a network namespace
> when I am already inside of a network namespace.  A child of a child.
> In which case I have to start rigging up something like a pair of
> veths an bridging or routing to get outside connectivity.
> 
> Or roughly:
> ip link add mv0 link eth0 type macvlan.
> ip link add mv1 link eth0 type macvlan.
> ip link set mv0 netns 1234
> ip link set mv1 netns 6789
> 
> Then later I would find it very handy to do:
> echo $$ -> 1234
> ip link add mv3 link mv0 type macvlan
> ip link set mv3 netns 101112

That makes sense of course. I'm mainly wondering whether a namespace
should be able to directly affect the real device like this. This
might move it to promiscous mode, or affect other performce-relevant
settings. Its also looks like you can steal the MAC address of a
different macvlan device this way and have the packets directed to you
(new devices are added to the beginning of the hash chains, so they
are found first on lookups).

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-06 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-05 23:12 [PATCH] macvlan: Support creating macvlans from macvlans Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-06 13:54 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-06 14:17   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-06 14:25     ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2009-03-06 15:03       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-06 15:08         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-06 15:24           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-06 15:33             ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-06 15:50               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-06 15:56                 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-06 17:07             ` Ben Greear
2009-03-06 20:16               ` [PATCH] macvlan: Deterministic ingress packet delivery Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-07 16:36                 ` Ben Greear
2009-03-09 13:25                 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-13 20:16                   ` David Miller
2009-03-13 20:15           ` [PATCH] macvlan: Support creating macvlans from macvlans David Miller

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