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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Mark Smith
	<nanog@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org>,
	greearb@candelatech.com, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, shemminger@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: MACVLANs really best solution? How about a bridge with multiple bridge virtual interfaces?
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:45:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49B5478C.4020001@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1fxhm8xl1.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> writes:
> 
>> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> There are two tricky parts.
>>>
>>> One problem is that macvlans and the primary hardware device share the
>>> same transmit queue.  So when I have a broadcast packet on the primary
>>> devices queue I don't know if I have already sent it out to the
>>> macvlan devices or not.
>> So its about receiving packets on macvlan when transmitting on the
>> real device? That sounds like a really hard problem that would probably
>> indeed be better solved by a bridge.
> 
> Yes.  My concern is that if we hook the real device we will
> software broadcast packets twice.

It would also require an additional hook in the networking core,
right? Which doesn't seem appropriate for a corner case like this.

> Now that I think about it we could call ndo_start_xmit directly
> from the macvlan code, and bypass whatever hook we use to
> intercept packets going out the normal device it should not
> be too difficult.

We don't intercept packets on TX, they have to be explicitly delivered
to macvlan.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-09 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-07 10:45 MACVLANs really best solution? How about a bridge with multiple bridge virtual interfaces? (was Re: [PATCH] macvlan: Support creating macvlans from macvlans) Mark Smith
2009-03-07 16:30 ` Ben Greear
2009-03-07 18:13   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-07 22:32     ` Mark Smith
2009-03-08 16:54       ` Ben Greear
2009-03-09  1:14         ` Mark Smith
2009-03-09 13:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-09 14:56   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-09 15:02     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-09 15:48       ` MACVLANs really best solution? How about a bridge with multiple bridge virtual interfaces? Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-09 15:53         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-09 16:34           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-09 16:45             ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2009-03-09 18:58               ` Ben Greear
2009-03-09 21:17                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-09 21:23                   ` Ben Greear
2009-03-09 18:33         ` Brian Haley
2009-03-09 18:54         ` Ben Greear

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