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From: Brian Haley <brian.haley@hp.com>
To: Felix von Leitner <felix-kernel@fefe.de>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: socket api problem: can't bind an ipv6 socket to ::ffff:0.0.0.0
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:21:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49BFF850.7060906@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090317180840.GC13270@codeblau.de>

Top-posting so others can see your off-list rant in full.  I see no reason to
help you any further, even though I did have a patch that would change this
behavior for you.  Good luck with your "biggest noncommercial Internet messaging
infrastructure" in the world.

-Brian

Felix von Leitner wrote:
>> Please show me a porting guide that even mentions supporting IPv4-only mode
>> through an IPv6 socket by using this method.  There is none that I know of.
> 
> Are you kidding me?
> A _porting guide_?!?
> 
> If you are trying to troll me, you just succeeded.
> 
> Now please make room so the adults can talk about the issue at hand
> while you are putting up straw men.
> 
>>> Did I mention *BSD and OSX allow this?
>> That was their decision, and it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
> 
> Riiiight.
> 
> There is an old joke.  The Joneses are driving on the freeway, when the
> radio sounds a warning.  "Warning!  There is a car driving the wrong way
> on the freeway!"  Says grandpa (who is driving the car) "what do you
> mean, one guy?  Hundreds!!"
> 
> Sometimes, if there are two ways to read something, and your users tell
> you which way they want it, and the competition does it the way the
> users want, and you don't, sometimes, in that case, YOU ARE WRONG.
> 
> It's that easy.
> 
> Hey, you have an hp.com email address.  Why don't you check out how
> HP-UX handles this.
> 
>> Compare your bittorrent server to Apache, which is probably the most widely-used
>> server application in the world.  It doesn't do what you're trying to do.  See
>> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/bind.html and/or browse the source code.
> 
> What is this supposed to be?  Name dropping?
> 
> I'm not impressed.
> 
> And Apache never won any speed or scalability records.  Just because
> many people use Apache does not mean it's a good piece of software.  You
> know, many more people use Windows than Linux.  That does not make
> Windows the standard to follow.  Hey, many people use sendmail!  And
> BIND!
> 
> Felix
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-17 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-16 23:48 socket api problem: can't bind an ipv6 socket to ::ffff:0.0.0.0 Felix von Leitner
2009-03-17  0:00 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-17  0:18   ` Felix von Leitner
2009-03-17  2:26 ` Brian Haley
2009-03-17  2:47   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-17  8:51     ` Bjørn Mork
2009-03-17 16:00     ` Brian Haley
2009-03-17 12:58   ` Felix von Leitner
2009-03-17 13:47     ` Vlad Yasevich
2009-03-17 14:14       ` Felix von Leitner
2009-03-17 14:57         ` Vlad Yasevich
2009-03-17 17:51           ` Felix von Leitner
2009-03-17 15:21         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-17 18:01           ` Felix von Leitner
2009-03-17 15:59     ` Brian Haley
     [not found]       ` <20090317180840.GC13270@codeblau.de>
2009-03-17 19:21         ` Brian Haley [this message]
2009-03-17 19:31           ` David Miller
2009-03-17 21:05             ` Vlad Yasevich
2009-03-17 21:05             ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] ipv6: Disallow binding to v4-mapped address on v6-only socket Vlad Yasevich
2009-03-17 21:06             ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] ipv6: Allow ipv4 wildcard binds after ipv6 address binds Vlad Yasevich
2009-03-17 21:06             ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] ipv6: Make v4-mapped bindings consitant with IPv4 Vlad Yasevich
2009-03-17 21:06             ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] ipv6: Fix conflict resolutions during ipv6 binding Vlad Yasevich
2009-03-18  9:13             ` socket api problem: can't bind an ipv6 socket to ::ffff:0.0.0.0 Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-18 21:36               ` David Miller
2009-03-18 21:53                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-19  0:32                   ` David Miller
2009-03-17  9:03 ` Bjørn Mork

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