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From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
To: Brian Haley <brian.haley@hp.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipv4/ipv6: check hop limit field on input
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:30:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A24F150.4090800@dev.6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A242418.1090804@hp.com>

Brian Haley wrote:
> Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> Nicolas Dichtel a écrit :
>>> Le 01.06.2009 18:19, Florian Westphal a écrit :
>>>> Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@dev.6wind.com> wrote:
>>>>> when network stack receives a packet, it didn't check value of
>>>>> ttl/hop limit
>>>>> field. RFC indicates that a router must drop the packet if this field
>>>>> is 0.
>>>> Whats wrong with the checks in ip(6)_forward?
>>> It's on forward, not on input. Router must not process it.
>>> For example, if you try to ping (with ttl set to 0) the router, you will
>>> receive a reply.
>>>
>> You seem to mix requirements for routers and hosts. ttl processing
>> is relevant for a gateway only, not for a host.
>>
>> (terminology : gateway / host in rfc 792)
>>
>> I would say : who sent this ttl=0 packet at first ?
>>
>> ping -t 0 host
>> ping: can't set unicast time-to-live: Invalid argument
>>
>> So Linux is not able to do that, unless using tricks of course, or patching IP_TTL
> 
> 'ping6 -t 0 host' does work however.  The problem I see is that if you ping a system,
> if it's a host it will respond, if it's a router it won't - the RFCs don't
> explicitly state the host should drop the packet.  I don't know if that difference
> in behavior is desired.  Do we know how any other OSes behave?
I've ask the IETF mailing list about host case. Response was:
"process as normal."

Nicolas

> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-02 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-01 15:13 [PATCH] ipv4/ipv6: check hop limit field on input Nicolas Dichtel
2009-06-01 16:19 ` Florian Westphal
2009-06-01 16:49   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2009-06-01 17:13     ` Florian Westphal
2009-06-02  9:30       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2009-06-01 18:43     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-06-01 18:55       ` Brian Haley
2009-06-02  1:54         ` John Dykstra
2009-06-02  2:02           ` David Miller
2009-06-02  9:22             ` John Dykstra
2009-06-02  9:32               ` David Miller
2009-06-02  9:35           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2009-06-02  9:30         ` Nicolas Dichtel [this message]
2009-06-02  9:30       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2009-06-02  2:04 ` David Miller
2009-06-02  5:31   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-06-02  5:43     ` David Miller
2009-06-02  9:36   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2009-06-02  9:37     ` David Miller

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