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From: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, agraf@suse.de,
	pmullaney@novell.com, pmorreale@novell.com,
	anthony@codemonkey.ws, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, bhutchings@solarflare.com,
	andi@firstfloor.org, gregkh@suse.de, herber@gondor.apana.org.au,
	chrisw@sous-sol.org, shemminger@vyatta.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] virtual-bus
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:44:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A292F58.8000004@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200906060005.47127.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

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Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:26:48 pm Gregory Haskins wrote:
>   
>> Hi Rusty,
>>
>> Rusty Russell wrote:
>>     
>>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:19:17 am Gregory Haskins wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Gregory Haskins wrote:
>>>>> One idea is similar to signalfd() or eventfd()
>>>>>           
>>>> And thus the "kvm-eventfd" (irqfd/iosignalfd) interface project was
>>>> born. ;)
>>>>         
>>> The lguest patch queue already has such an interface :)
>>>       
>> Cool!  Ultimately I think it will be easier if both lguest+kvm support
>> the same eventfd notion so this is good you are already moving in the
>> same direction.
>>     
>
> Not really; lguest doesn't do PCI.
>   

Thats ok.  I see these eventfd interfaces as somewhat orthogonal to
PCI.  I.e. if both lguest and kvm have an eventfd mechnism for signaling
in both directions (e.g. interrupts and io), it would make it easier to
support the kind of thing I am striving for with a unified backend. 
That is: one in-kernel virtio-net that works in both (or even many) HV
environments.  I see that as a higher layer abstraction than PCI, per se.
>   
>>> And I have a partially complete in-kernel virtio_pci patch with the same
>>> trick.
>>>       
>> I thought lguest didn't use pci?  Or do you just mean that you have an
>> in-kernel virtio-net for lguest?
>>     
>
> No, this was for kvm.  Sorry for the confusion.
>   

Ah, sorry.  Well, if its in any kind of shape to see the light of day,
please forward it over.  Perhaps Michael and I can craft it into a
working solution.

>   
>> Other than the potential rcu issues that Paul already addressed, looks
>> good.  FWIW: this looks like what we are calling "iosignalfd" on the kvm
>> land (unless I am misunderstanding).  Do you have the equivalent of
>> "irqfd" going the other way?
>>     
>
> Yes; lguest uses write() (offset indicates cpu #) rather than ioctls, but 
> anyone can do the LHREQ_IRQ write to queue an interrupt for delivery.
>
> So the threads just get the same /dev/lguest fd and it's simple.
>   

Ah, ok.  Thats workable, too.  (This kind of detail would be buried in
the "lguest connector" for vbus anyway, so it doesn't have to have a
uniform "eventfd_signal()" interface to work.  The fd concept alone is
sufficiently flexible).

Thanks Rusty,
-Greg


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      reply	other threads:[~2009-06-05 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-09 16:30 [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] virtual-bus Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:30 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/19] shm-signal: shared-memory signals Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:30 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] vbus: add virtual-bus definitions Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:30 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/19] vbus: add connection-client helper infrastructure Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 18:06   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-04 18:18     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 18:24       ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-04 18:30         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 19:04           ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-04 18:23     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/19] vbus: add bus-registration notifiers Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/19] vbus: add a "vbus-proxy" bus model for vbus_driver objects Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/19] ioq: Add basic definitions for a shared-memory, lockless queue Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/19] ioq: add vbus helpers Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/19] venet: add the ABI definitions for an 802.x packet interface Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/19] net: Add vbus_enet driver Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:37   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-09 19:50     ` Greg KH
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/19] venet-tap: Adds a "venet" compatible "tap" device to VBUS Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/19] venet: add scatter-gather support Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/19] venettap: " Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/19] x86: allow the irq->vector translation to be determined outside of ioapic Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/19] kvm: add a reset capability Gregory Haskins
2009-04-11 16:56   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/19] kvm: add dynamic IRQ support Gregory Haskins
2009-04-11 17:01   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-13 17:44     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/19] kvm: Add VBUS support to the host Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/19] kvm: Add guest-side support for VBUS Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] vbus: add a userspace connector Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/19] virtio: add a vbus transport Gregory Haskins
2009-08-09 16:40   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 15:40     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] virtual-bus Gregory Haskins
2009-04-11 16:45   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-04 18:49     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-05  4:55       ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-05  5:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-05 14:55           ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-05 16:25             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-05 11:56         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-05 12:53           ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 12:54             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-05 14:35           ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-05 14:44             ` Gregory Haskins [this message]

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