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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, agraf@suse.de,
	pmullaney@novell.com, pmorreale@novell.com,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, avi@redhat.com, bhutchings@solarflare.com,
	andi@firstfloor.org, gregkh@suse.de, herber@gondor.apana.org.au,
	chrisw@sous-sol.org, shemminger@vyatta.com,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 19/19] virtio: add a vbus transport
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:40:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A7EFBE8.7050409@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090409163221.32740.38373.stgit@dev.haskins.net>

Gregory Haskins wrote:
> We add a new virtio transport for accessing backends located on vbus.  This
> complements the existing transports for virtio-pci, virtio-s390, and
> virtio-lguest that already exist.
>
> Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>

Very interesting...

I'm somewhat confused by what you're advocating vbus as.  I'm trying to 
figure out how we converge vbus and virtio and become one big happy 
family :-)

What parts of it do you think are better than virtio?  Should we forget 
about venet and just focus on virtio-net on top of virtio-vbus assuming 
that we can prove venet-tap/virtio-vbus/virtio-net is just as good as 
venet-tap/vbus/venet?

If we can prove that an in-kernel virtio-net 
backend/virtio-pci/virtio-net does just as well as 
venet-tap/virtio-vbus/virtio-net does that mean that vbus is no longer 
needed?

If you concede that the transport mechanisms can be identical, are you 
really advocating the discovering and configuration mechanisms in vbus?  
Is that what we should be focusing on? Do you care only about the host 
mechanisms or do you also require the guest infrastructure to be present?

I think two paravirtual I/O frameworks for KVM is a bad thing.  It 
duplicates a ton of code and will very likely lead to user unhappiness.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-09 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-09 16:30 [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] virtual-bus Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:30 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/19] shm-signal: shared-memory signals Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:30 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] vbus: add virtual-bus definitions Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:30 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/19] vbus: add connection-client helper infrastructure Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 18:06   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-04 18:18     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 18:24       ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-04 18:30         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 19:04           ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-04 18:23     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/19] vbus: add bus-registration notifiers Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/19] vbus: add a "vbus-proxy" bus model for vbus_driver objects Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/19] ioq: Add basic definitions for a shared-memory, lockless queue Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/19] ioq: add vbus helpers Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/19] venet: add the ABI definitions for an 802.x packet interface Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/19] net: Add vbus_enet driver Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:37   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-09 19:50     ` Greg KH
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/19] venet-tap: Adds a "venet" compatible "tap" device to VBUS Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/19] venet: add scatter-gather support Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/19] venettap: " Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/19] x86: allow the irq->vector translation to be determined outside of ioapic Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/19] kvm: add a reset capability Gregory Haskins
2009-04-11 16:56   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/19] kvm: add dynamic IRQ support Gregory Haskins
2009-04-11 17:01   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-13 17:44     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/19] kvm: Add VBUS support to the host Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/19] kvm: Add guest-side support for VBUS Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] vbus: add a userspace connector Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/19] virtio: add a vbus transport Gregory Haskins
2009-08-09 16:40   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-08-10 15:40     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-04-09 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] virtual-bus Gregory Haskins
2009-04-11 16:45   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-04 18:49     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-05  4:55       ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-05  5:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-05 14:55           ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-05 16:25             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-05 11:56         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-05 12:53           ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 12:54             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-05 14:35           ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-05 14:44             ` Gregory Haskins

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