From: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
To: "Ira W. Snyder" <iws@ovro.caltech.edu>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
s.hetze@linux-ag.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:00:21 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AAA7415.5080204@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090908172035.GB319@ovro.caltech.edu>
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Ira W. Snyder wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 01:15:37PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:39:45AM -0700, Ira W. Snyder wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 07:07:50PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> What it is: vhost net is a character device that can be used to reduce
>>>> the number of system calls involved in virtio networking.
>>>> Existing virtio net code is used in the guest without modification.
>>>>
>>>> There's similarity with vringfd, with some differences and reduced scope
>>>> - uses eventfd for signalling
>>>> - structures can be moved around in memory at any time (good for migration)
>>>> - support memory table and not just an offset (needed for kvm)
>>>>
>>>> common virtio related code has been put in a separate file vhost.c and
>>>> can be made into a separate module if/when more backends appear. I used
>>>> Rusty's lguest.c as the source for developing this part : this supplied
>>>> me with witty comments I wouldn't be able to write myself.
>>>>
>>>> What it is not: vhost net is not a bus, and not a generic new system
>>>> call. No assumptions are made on how guest performs hypercalls.
>>>> Userspace hypervisors are supported as well as kvm.
>>>>
>>>> How it works: Basically, we connect virtio frontend (configured by
>>>> userspace) to a backend. The backend could be a network device, or a
>>>> tun-like device. In this version I only support raw socket as a backend,
>>>> which can be bound to e.g. SR IOV, or to macvlan device. Backend is
>>>> also configured by userspace, including vlan/mac etc.
>>>>
>>>> Status:
>>>> This works for me, and I haven't see any crashes.
>>>> I have done some light benchmarking (with v4), compared to userspace, I
>>>> see improved latency (as I save up to 4 system calls per packet) but not
>>>> bandwidth/CPU (as TSO and interrupt mitigation are not supported). For
>>>> ping benchmark (where there's no TSO) troughput is also improved.
>>>>
>>>> Features that I plan to look at in the future:
>>>> - tap support
>>>> - TSO
>>>> - interrupt mitigation
>>>> - zero copy
>>>>
>>> Hello Michael,
>>>
>>> I've started looking at vhost with the intention of using it over PCI to
>>> connect physical machines together.
>>>
>>> The part that I am struggling with the most is figuring out which parts
>>> of the rings are in the host's memory, and which parts are in the
>>> guest's memory.
>> All rings are in guest's memory, to match existing virtio code.
>
> Ok, this makes sense.
>
>> vhost
>> assumes that the memory space of the hypervisor userspace process covers
>> the whole of guest memory.
>
> Is this necessary? Why? The assumption seems very wrong when you're
> doing data transport between two physical systems via PCI.
FWIW: VBUS handles this situation via the "memctx" abstraction. IOW,
the memory is not assumed to be a userspace address. Rather, it is a
memctx-specific address, which can be userspace, or any other type
(including hardware, dma-engine, etc). As long as the memctx knows how
to translate it, it will work.
Kind Regards,
-Greg
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <cover.1251388414.git.mst@redhat.com>
2009-08-27 16:06 ` [PATCHv5 1/3] mm: export use_mm/unuse_mm to modules Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-28 15:31 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCHv5 2/3] mm: reduce atomic use on use_mm fast path Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCHv5 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-03 18:39 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-07 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-08 17:20 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-08 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-11 15:17 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-13 5:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 5:57 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-14 7:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-11 16:00 ` Gregory Haskins [this message]
2009-09-11 16:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-13 12:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 16:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-14 16:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 19:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 12:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 20:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 20:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 20:43 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:55 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 14:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 15:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 16:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 8:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 11:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 13:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 14:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 19:22 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 21:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 3:11 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17 7:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 14:16 ` Javier Guerra
2009-09-21 21:43 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-22 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 15:25 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-22 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 14:26 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 15:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 17:58 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 19:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 21:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-24 7:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 18:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-25 8:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-25 21:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-27 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 20:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-01 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01 9:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-01 19:24 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-03 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 19:27 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-25 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 8:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 18:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17 3:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-17 4:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-14 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 19:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-25 17:01 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-27 7:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] <E88DD564E9DC5446A76B2B47C3BCCA150219600F9B@pdsmsx503.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2009-08-31 11:42 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 15:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-01 14:58 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 17:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-31 21:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-01 15:37 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01 5:04 ` Xin, Xiaohui
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