From: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
"Ira W. Snyder" <iws@ovro.caltech.edu>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
s.hetze@linux-ag.com, alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:13:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AB1B752.4010505@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090917035717.GB3088@redhat.com>
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Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:10:55AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>>> There is no role reversal.
>> So if I have virtio-blk driver running on the x86 and vhost-blk device
>> running on the ppc board, I can use the ppc board as a block-device.
>> What if I really wanted to go the other way?
>
> It seems ppc is the only one that can initiate DMA to an arbitrary
> address, so you can't do this really, or you can by tunneling each
> request back to ppc, or doing an extra data copy, but it's unlikely to
> work well.
>
> The limitation comes from hardware, not from the API we use.
Understood, but presumably it can be exposed as a sub-function of the
ppc's board's register file as a DMA-controller service to the x86.
This would fall into the "tunnel requests back" category you mention
above, though I think "tunnel" implies a heavier protocol than it would
actually require. This would look more like a PIO cycle to a DMA
controller than some higher layer protocol.
You would then utilize that DMA service inside the memctx, and it the
rest of vbus would work transparently with the existing devices/drivers.
I do agree it would require some benchmarking to determine its
feasibility, which is why I was careful to say things like "may work"
;). I also do not even know if its possible to expose the service this
way on his system. If this design is not possible or performs poorly, I
admit vbus is just as hosed as vhost in regard to the "role correction"
benefit.
Kind Regards,
-Greg
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <cover.1251388414.git.mst@redhat.com>
2009-08-27 16:06 ` [PATCHv5 1/3] mm: export use_mm/unuse_mm to modules Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-28 15:31 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCHv5 2/3] mm: reduce atomic use on use_mm fast path Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCHv5 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-03 18:39 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-07 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-08 17:20 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-08 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-11 15:17 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-13 5:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 5:57 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-14 7:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-11 16:00 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-11 16:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-13 12:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 16:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-14 16:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 19:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 12:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 20:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 20:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 20:43 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:55 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 14:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 15:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 16:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 8:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 11:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 13:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 14:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 19:22 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 21:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 3:11 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17 7:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 14:16 ` Javier Guerra
2009-09-21 21:43 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-22 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 15:25 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-22 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 14:26 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 15:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 17:58 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 19:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 21:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-24 7:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 18:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-25 8:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-25 21:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-27 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 20:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-01 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01 9:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-01 19:24 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-03 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 19:27 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-25 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 8:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 18:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17 3:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-17 4:13 ` Gregory Haskins [this message]
2009-09-15 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-14 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 19:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-25 17:01 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-27 7:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] <E88DD564E9DC5446A76B2B47C3BCCA150219600F9B@pdsmsx503.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2009-08-31 11:42 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 15:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-01 14:58 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 17:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-31 21:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-01 15:37 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01 5:04 ` Xin, Xiaohui
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