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From: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Ira W. Snyder" <iws@ovro.caltech.edu>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	s.hetze@linux-ag.com, alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:13:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AB1B752.4010505@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090917035717.GB3088@redhat.com>

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Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:10:55AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>>> There is no role reversal.
>> So if I have virtio-blk driver running on the x86 and vhost-blk device
>> running on the ppc board, I can use the ppc board as a block-device.
>> What if I really wanted to go the other way?
> 
> It seems ppc is the only one that can initiate DMA to an arbitrary
> address, so you can't do this really, or you can by tunneling each
> request back to ppc, or doing an extra data copy, but it's unlikely to
> work well.
> 
> The limitation comes from hardware, not from the API we use.

Understood, but presumably it can be exposed as a sub-function of the
ppc's board's register file as a DMA-controller service to the x86.
This would fall into the "tunnel requests back" category you mention
above, though I think "tunnel" implies a heavier protocol than it would
actually require.  This would look more like a PIO cycle to a DMA
controller than some higher layer protocol.

You would then utilize that DMA service inside the memctx, and it the
rest of vbus would work transparently with the existing devices/drivers.

I do agree it would require some benchmarking to determine its
feasibility, which is why I was careful to say things like "may work"
;).  I also do not even know if its possible to expose the service this
way on his system.  If this design is not possible or performs poorly, I
admit vbus is just as hosed as vhost in regard to the "role correction"
benefit.

Kind Regards,
-Greg


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-17  4:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1251388414.git.mst@redhat.com>
2009-08-27 16:06 ` [PATCHv5 1/3] mm: export use_mm/unuse_mm to modules Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-28 15:31   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCHv5 2/3] mm: reduce atomic use on use_mm fast path Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCHv5 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-03 18:39   ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-07 10:15     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-08 17:20       ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-08 20:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-11 15:17           ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-13  5:46             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14  5:57               ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-14  7:05                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-11 16:00         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-11 16:14           ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-13 12:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 16:08             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-14 16:47               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 19:14                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 12:35                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:03                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 13:25                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:50                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 14:28                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 15:03                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 20:08                             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 20:40                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 20:43                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:25                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:39                                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:38                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:55                                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 14:57                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 15:13                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 15:22                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 16:08                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16  8:23                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 11:44                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 13:05                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 14:10                                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 15:59                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 19:22                                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 21:00                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17  3:11                                             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17  7:49                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 14:16                                               ` Javier Guerra
2009-09-21 21:43                                               ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-22  9:43                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 15:25                                                   ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-22 15:56                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 14:26                                                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 14:37                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 15:10                                                       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 17:58                                                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 19:37                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 21:15                                                             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-24  7:18                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 18:03                                                                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-25  8:22                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-25 21:32                                                                     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-27  9:43                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 20:04                                                                         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-01  8:34                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01  9:28                                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-01 19:24                                                                             ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-03 10:00                                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 19:27                                                                 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-25  7:43                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24  8:03                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 18:04                                                               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17  3:57                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-17  4:13                                         ` Gregory Haskins [this message]
2009-09-15 12:32                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-14 16:53               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 19:28                 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-25 17:01   ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-27  7:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] <E88DD564E9DC5446A76B2B47C3BCCA150219600F9B@pdsmsx503.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2009-08-31 11:42 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 15:23   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-01 14:58     ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 17:52   ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-31 21:56     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-01 15:37       ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01  5:04     ` Xin, Xiaohui

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