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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT is missing counter update
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:29:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AD43A4F.1090800@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091013073410.GA3792@1wt.eu>

Willy Tarreau a écrit :
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 09:23:59AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> Willy Tarreau a écrit :
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I was trying to use TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT and noticed that if the
>>> client does not talk, the connection is never accepted and
>>> remains in SYN_RECV state until the retransmits expire, where
>>> it finally is deleted. This is bad when some firewall such as
>>> netfilter sits between the client and the server because the
>>> firewall sees the connection in ESTABLISHED state while the
>>> server will finally silently drop it without sending an RST.
>>>
>>> This behaviour contradicts the man page which says it should
>>> wait only for some time :
>>>
>>>        TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT (since Linux 2.4)
>>>           Allows a listener to be awakened only when data arrives
>>>           on the socket.  Takes an integer value  (seconds), this
>>>           can  bound  the  maximum  number  of attempts TCP will
>>>           make to complete the connection. This option should not
>>>           be used in code intended to be portable.
>>>
>>> Also, looking at ipv4/tcp.c, a retransmit counter is correctly
>>> computed :
>>>
>>>         case TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT:
>>>                 icsk->icsk_accept_queue.rskq_defer_accept = 0;
>>>                 if (val > 0) {
>>>                         /* Translate value in seconds to number of
>>>                          * retransmits */
>>>                         while (icsk->icsk_accept_queue.rskq_defer_accept < 32 &&
>>>                                val > ((TCP_TIMEOUT_INIT / HZ) <<
>>>                                        icsk->icsk_accept_queue.rskq_defer_accept))
>>>                                 icsk->icsk_accept_queue.rskq_defer_accept++;
>>>                         icsk->icsk_accept_queue.rskq_defer_accept++;
>>>                 }
>>>                 break;
>>>
>>> ==> rskq_defer_accept is used as a counter of retransmits.
>>>
>>> But in tcp_minisocks.c, this counter is only checked. And in
>>> fact, I have found no location which updates it. So I think
>>> that what was intended was to decrease it in tcp_minisocks
>>> whenever it is checked, which the trivial patch below does :
>>>
>>> diff --git a/net/ipv4/tcp_minisocks.c b/net/ipv4/tcp_minisocks.c
>>> index f8d67cc..1b443b0 100644
>>> --- a/net/ipv4/tcp_minisocks.c
>>> +++ b/net/ipv4/tcp_minisocks.c
>>> @@ -645,6 +645,7 @@ struct sock *tcp_check_req(struct sock *sk, struct sk_buff *skb,
>>>  	if (inet_csk(sk)->icsk_accept_queue.rskq_defer_accept &&
>>>  	    TCP_SKB_CB(skb)->end_seq == tcp_rsk(req)->rcv_isn + 1) {
>>> +		inet_csk(sk)->icsk_accept_queue.rskq_defer_accept--;
>>>  		inet_rsk(req)->acked = 1;
>>>  		return NULL;
>>>  	}
>>>  
>>
>> I dont understand why you want to decrement rskq_defer_accept here.
> 
> Because the "timeout" as set by setsockopt() is converted into number
> of retransmits.
> 
>> We receive a pure ACK (wihout DATA).
>> We should receive exactly one such ACK.
> 
> No, we will receive other ones because the socket remains in SYN_RECV
> and since the local system ignores this ACK, it will send a SYN-ACK
> again, triggering a new ACK from the client.
> 
> Although the concept looks strange at first, I think its implementation
> is in fact very smart because it manages to defer acceptation with an
> approximate timeout without using another timer.
> 
> The most common requirement should only be to wait for an HTTP request
> to come in, and setting the timeout to anything non-zero is enough to
> just drop the first empty ACK and immediately accept on the data
> segment, so this method fits this purpose perfectly.
> 

Indeed, thanks for this detailed explanation, I missed the SYN-ACK timer
and retransmits.

I played some years ago with TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT and got some unexpected results
on transmitted packets (server was consuming more bandwidth), and I know understand
it was very broken until today !

Thanks again Willy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-13  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-13  5:07 TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT is missing counter update Willy Tarreau
2009-10-13  7:11 ` David Miller
2009-10-13  7:19   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-13  7:27     ` David Miller
2009-10-13 21:27     ` Julian Anastasov
2009-10-14  4:52       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-14  7:27         ` Julian Anastasov
2009-10-14 20:17           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-14 21:12             ` Olaf van der Spek
2009-10-14 22:43             ` David Miller
2009-10-15  6:08               ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-15  8:47                 ` Julian Anastasov
2009-10-15 12:41                   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-15 22:44                     ` Julian Anastasov
2009-10-16  3:51                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-16  5:00                         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-16  5:29                           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-16  6:05                             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-16  6:18                               ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-16  7:08                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-16  7:19                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-16  5:03                       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-16  8:49                         ` Julian Anastasov
2009-10-16 10:40                           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-16 19:27                             ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-17 11:48                             ` Julian Anastasov
2009-10-17 12:07                               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-17 14:20                                 ` Julian Anastasov
2009-10-19 20:01                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-19 20:11                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-19 20:17                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-20  2:23                                     ` David Miller
2009-10-15  7:59               ` Julian Anastasov
2009-10-16 10:08           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2009-10-13  7:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-10-13  7:34   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-10-13  8:08     ` Olaf van der Spek
2009-10-13  8:29     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2009-10-13  8:35       ` David Miller
2009-10-13  7:35   ` David Miller
2009-10-13  8:12     ` Willy Tarreau

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